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sunrise3500
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Registered: Mar 2004
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ARIA/MIPI make up new licenses for dj's

DJ's can no longer "shift" music onto other media.
Ie in the context of dj's.. you can't copy music from a legit cd you bought to your laptop/ipod/a compilation cd/etc etc without obtaining a license.
What load of a rubbish.

http://www.mipi.com.au/documents/No...008homepage.pdf

*wonders how legal the dj's are around here.. especwith bullshit like the above*


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Aesthetic
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Registered: Jul 2002
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oh no.. what will soups do


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Dean Millson
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I haven't read the pdf, but the DJ never has to have a licence, it's the venue that they play in.

I no understand.


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sunrise3500
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Registered: Mar 2004
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Originally posted by Dean Millson
I haven't read the pdf, but the DJ never has to have a licence, it's the venue that they play in.

I no understand.

yes but now if you they're saying if you "shift" the original music ie copy it onto something else (not using the original) you have to have a license. you're probably still thinking wtf because it sounds so stupid and retarded. but .. LOL


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James Brooke
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Registered: Nov 2006
Location: Melbourne

so for example...

i buy tunes off beatport for my next gig, download them to my pc and then burn them to a cd so i can play at the club..

if i dont have one of these "DJ license's" i have just commited a crime by burning the MP3s i legally purchased onto a cd!

And if i do buy one of these licenese the money they take off me wont be going to the labels i purchased the music off, it will be going to the four major record labels and "some smaller labels"

Thumbs up to the blood sucking lawyers at APRA and MIPI, well done


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pkcRAISTLIN
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What id like to know is how they (an australian body) can charge lisencing fees for songs that were produced in other countries.

Anywayz, im still playing vinyl so they can suck my nuts. ill copy vinyl to CD and play it if i want to and they can still dangle my hairy scrote on the tip of their tongue.


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sunrise3500
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Registered: Mar 2004
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
ill copy vinyl to CD and play it if i want to and they can still dangle my hairy scrote on the tip of their tongue.

and that's how it should be.


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gumble
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Melbourne

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If you want to copy your legitimate CDs or digital files into a more convenient format or onto another device for playing at a gig, you must get:

1. Permission or a licence from the record company that controls the copyright in the sound recordings (contact the Licensing Department of the relevant record company). ARIA offers a “blanket” licence which allows you to be covered for the electronic reproduction of the ARIA Licensors’ repertoire (which includes the major record companies and many smaller labels) onto a primary and back-up hard-drive system for the purpose of providing a DJ service; and


2. A licence from AMCOS for the reproduction of the music. Generally, AMCOS will offer a “blanket” licence which allows you to be covered for all reproduction of musical and literary works for certain purposes.


Thats basically the gist of it. A licence to cover all forms of transfer. If it isn't hard to obtain, it would be worth doing... not because its right, but it would cover you DJing. It depends how this is enforced. I know plenty of DJs that have, for years, played mp3s downloaded and burned to CD.

What has happened to the "backup purposes" claus, that at least exists for personal use? Isn't that common sense? I don't see why a backup [instead of original]played out is different if you have PAID for the music and hence PAID for the licence. Hypothetically, what happens if clubs soon start phasing out turntables?

quote:
• If people aren’t willing to pay for the music they love, the music industry will find it increasingly difficult to commit the kind of resources it takes to discover and develop new Australian talent.


New talent rises through working hard, not hand-outs from over-lucrative record deals, ala Aus idol etc. I think it adds to diversity in music, by having "struggling" artists writing and producing music becuase they love to. The glorified status of musicians has done more harm than good. We just end up with crap music. It may be produced well, but where is the emotion and passion in the music? [I'm mainly talking about the rock scene, haven't seen a DJ in ages.] Artists deserve recognition, respect and of course money relating to thier entertainment... when they've earned it.

quote:
What if my ‘Mix CD’ is going to be distributed for free?
Regardless of whether you are making a profit or not from your CD, copying or sampling music without the permission of the copyright owners breaks the law.


Okay, thats going to destroy the club scene [if enforced]. If you can't pass out a mix, your chances of getting gigs is almost none, unless you are lucky enough to know the right people.


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Slade
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Perth, Western Australia

I don't think the underground electronic scene has too much to worry about. As if ARIA are gonna give a shit about you burning the latest Oliver Lieb mp3's to cd.

But if you're in the area of playing commercial music to large numbers of patrons, this kind of ruling would apply to you.


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Fledz
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: London UK

Another stupid rule that people will just turn a blind eye to.

As it should be. The people making these rules clearly are not in touch with the community at all, and especially not with the DJs and artists who legally buy their music and support the scene a hell of a lot more than these fat cats ever could.


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T-Soma
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Chair

Complete and utter BS.
They are not trying to save any artists.

50 cent is not an artist.
Aussi Idols are not artists.
Record label owners are not artists!

As someone who would actually like to become a full time producer and live off making music, this stuff still pisses me off.

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Fledz
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Registered: Sep 2006
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Why is 50cent not an artist?

Not really related to DJing but I thought it was a strange comment.


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