They should teach a class where philosophy, religion, and metaphysical theories are presented for the students to analyze on their own.

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Originally posted by Krypton They should teach a class where philosophy, religion, and metaphysical theories are presented for the students to analyze on their own.

I agree with my mate, I think if equally explored then there is no issue at all. I think children of today are mature enough to observe said teachings with an analytically inclined frame of minnd.

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Originally posted by Krypton They should teach a class where philosophy, religion, and metaphysical theories are presented for the students to analyze on their own.

really, why? what do they really have to discuss - they only propose one single sentence "god did it". good luck "analysing" that.

philosophy (at least in Oz) isn't really taught until university anyway, why not wait until then when students are free to select that as part of their curriculum?

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I'm personally offended that my religion is not included in these lessons..

I encourage you all to open your mind and take a look at it:

Church of the FSM

Gospel of the mighty FSM

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN really, why?

Why? Because god, metaphysics, and religion don't belong in a science classroom. Science is only concerned with how the universe operates. It is not concerned with why the universe is or the human relationship to the creation/(perceived creator). It would therefore be helpful to learn about philosphy, logic, and religion to broaden one's mind. "God" is something which can't be confined to a test tube.

The most important purpose of having such a class is to satisfy those who want creationism taught in the science class. It's a great legal remedy to the issue. A moderate stance is best here...

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what do they really have to discuss - they only propose one single sentence "god did it". good luck "analysing" that.

There are PLENTY of things to talk about. How about morality and ethics? Where did they come from? What is their purpose? Are they absolute or relative? Students should also know about logical fallacies so each one can be critical thinkers of the media, sciences, etc.

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philosophy (at least in Oz) isn't really taught until university anyway, why not wait until then when students are free to select that as part of their curriculum?

It should be an elective in high school in my opinion because it's that important. Remember, these "non-scientific" subjects would be taught in an objective manner giving the student the ability to develop his/her own worldview independently.

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Originally posted by Krypton They should teach a class where philosophy, religion, and metaphysical theories are presented for the students to analyze on their own.

No we should just bring our mathematics up to par with the rest of the world.

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Originally posted by Zild No we should just bring our mathematics up to par with the rest of the world.

Of course, but math is not an elective.

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Originally posted by Krypton Why? Because god, metaphysics, and religion don't belong in a science classroom.

Yeah, well what I was questioning was religion's place in the classroom at all people can go to church to learn about the gospels if they really must.

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Originally posted by Krypton The most important purpose of having such a class is to satisfy those who want creationism taught in the science class. It's a great legal remedy to the issue. A moderate stance is best here...

so appeasing those that hold unsubstantiated superstitious beliefs is a good thing? i think not.

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Originally posted by Krypton There are PLENTY of things to talk about. How about morality and ethics? Where did they come from? What is their purpose? Are they absolute or relative? Students should also know about logical fallacies so each one can be critical thinkers of the media, sciences, etc.

And what is going to be removed to include philosophy in the curriculum?

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Originally posted by Krypton It should be an elective in high school in my opinion because it's that important.

students that are that interested in philosophy go onto tertiary studies in that discipline. i cant see many 16 year olds getting enthused over discussions re existence or truth. i know i struggled in first year to see the point of it all.

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Originally posted by Krypton Remember, these "non-scientific" subjects would be taught in an objective manner giving the student the ability to develop his/her own worldview independently.

oh, just the way evolution is being so "objectively" taught (avoided) in the US today?

in any case, being more specific, i dont see why creationism should be taught in ANY classroom, unless there are also schools for tarot readings, astrology, tea leaves etc.

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Originally posted by Krypton They should teach a class where philosophy, religion, and metaphysical theories are presented for the students to analyze on their own.

I went to public high school and we had a class for precisely that. But that wouldn't temper the demand for an evolution-free curriculum.

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Originally posted by Krypton Of course, but math is not an elective.

Yeah but we should fix our basics before we look to electives.

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Originally posted by Zild Yeah but we should fix our basics before we look to electives.

exactly.

the meaning of life is completely irrelevant if someone cant work out how much change johnny should get from going to the shop for a carton of milk.

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