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djsocrates
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Lexington KY
How do I record From my Tables tp my Computer????????

I have a general Idea how to do this I preferrably want to do this with winamp and shoutcast because I only have 256 ram and a 866mhz processor. Could anybody tell me how I should record this with these two programs?????

Old Post May-07-2002 01:48  United States
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kr00t0n
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Hibernating

Cant help you there mate, I use Soundforge (kick-ass software this), and I'm not to sure if Winamp can record (I've never heard of shoutcast), but maybe the newer versions can.

You will need a split audio cable though, one that plugs into the right and left output on your mixer, and into your soundcard (sometimes called a 2 to 1 audio cable).


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Old Post May-07-2002 03:52  United Kingdom
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Xquisite
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Santa Barbara, CA, USA

oh i see.. u want to make a live broadcast of what you're doing.

I guess you could try to use teh line-in .dll in your Winamp preferences to get the data to be transferred across Shoutcast, although i'm not so sure if that will work. You cant really record using Winamp unless you have a mp3 already there. Then you just select the wave out plugin and it makes it into a wave automatically.

As for connecting your tables to ur computer... u have to route it from your mixer to your computer. You need Y-adaptors for the left and right Outputs of your mixer. Then have a 2 to 1 RCA(red/white) to miniplug adaptor. Then plug in the miniplug into the line in of your computer.

I never tried sendin out a streamin live session, but i record through cool edit, then make that into a mp3.


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Bear4569
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Rochester, New York

Basically what you have to do is run from your mixer to your computer soundcard IN. Depending on how you hook it up depends really on your mixer...if you want to tell what it's like I can probably help you out.

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Vnatic
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Eindhoven

I got a Numark DM2002X and that has 2 line outs, one for the main speakers, and one for the booth, allmost every mixer has that.
Now, you just hook up the booth-outs to your line-in on your soundcard. If you have problems with this just plug it into you mic input, turn down the mic volume in the volume control in windows, also turn down your booth volume on the mixer.
Now just put on a record, and check in your windows volume control how high the pek is going on the mic-in, keep turning your booth volume up 'till the peak volume is just right on your PC.
( you don't want to record with a high volume off of a low volume booth sound, cause you will get a hummmmmmmmm )
then just record on any audiorecording software, ever the mic-recorder in windows!

And if you really wanna get going, get Magix Samplitude Studio
( you can get a demo on the magix site )
this will easily let you record off of any input into your soundcard.

Hope I helped....


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Technaut
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Registered: Nov 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Xquisite
but i record through cool edit, then make that into a mp3.


I do this also to record my set, Cool Edit Pro kicks ass !!!


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DJ Mikey Mike
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: I'm at your mums'

can u use total recorder?

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DJTJ
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Bournemouth, UK when I'm at home, Cardiff, UK when I'm at uni

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
can u use total recorder?

You can, but it's shite. Download SoundForge instead and get a crack for it.

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Dj Thy
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Belgium, Earth

The basic installation is rec out (or if not available, the master out or booth out are good also) from your mixer to line in of your sound card. Be sure the line in is selected as recording enabled (soundcard properties, little speaker in the systray -> options -> properties -> recording). You should set your levels too, most of the time you can monitor the levels in your recording progs. The level should peak as close as possible to 0 dB as possible, without ever reaching the fatidic 0dB itself.

You have basically two options
- the one with external progs like Soundforge, Samplitude, Wavelab, Cool edit and the likes. What you do is start the program, press record, when done press stop, and save the file to any supported format (some progs have encoders included, others can only save regular wavs or aiffs). You can edit your recordings also in those progs.

- the other is like you suggested, but then I'd use the Oddcast DSP plugin (found at http://www.oddsock.org/tools/) in winamp instead of the shoutcast one. Why? If you want good quality mp3's, you'll have to search a cracked fraunhoffer encoder from Radium for your shoutcast plugin to be able to record over 56 kbps mp3's. Oddcast comes standard with the LAME encoder, one of the best available, and it can encode up to 320 kpbs.
The method looks a little bit weird at first, because you need several things. You need the DSP plugin configured in advanced mode (to be able to record from your line in) and you should have a shoutcast server (www.shoutcast.com) running local (both shoutcast and oddcast can connect on it). Why the server, because the plugin won't stream/encode without being connected to a server. So you run your shoutcast server, then in winamp run the dsp plugin, set the encoding properties (and then in oddcast you have the option to record the stream right away, that's what you want) and finally connect the plugin to your server (it's running local). The plugin will start streaming/recording your line input straight to mp3. Once you're finished, stop the plugin, and voila you have your mp3.


Both methods are ok, but personally I use the first one most, it's more versatile. You don't need a monster of a comp to record though (it's more for editing that power matters). Your comp should largely suffice to even run big a$$ applications like Samplitude or Protools.

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DjNumShum
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Tel-Aviv, Israel

maybe a stupid question , i've never recorded so i just need to know
when u record a set into u'r computer, does it save it as a WAV file??
i therea way to recors into MP3 or any other format?
because i have limited space and WAV files takes lotsa space!, a 60 minutes set might be around 1+Gigz right?


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Old Post May-09-2002 19:02  Israel
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Dj Thy
Deckhead



Registered: May 2001
Location: Belgium, Earth

Well when you use the second method I told, it records straight away to the format you chose.
If you record with prog like Soundforge or so, the actual file will be in what format you choose to save it. The problem is those files keep the actual recording data in a temp file as long as it's not saved yet. And that temp data is in fact WAV, so it takes as much space as a wav file of the same length.

A rough estimate of the space required for a WAV file at 44.1 kHz, 16 bits is about 10 megs per minute (again, a rough estimate)

Old Post May-09-2002 20:51  Belgium
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