2 years old, but a cool find nevertheless. According to the study (link below), a low dose of e (approx 1.5 tabs) taken at time intervals of > 2 weeks may help improve depression symptoms by as much as 28%. Does anyone know anything else about this? (personal experiences are welcome)
The preliminary results from an ongoing Dutch study also indicate that the very moderate use of Ecstasy alleviates symptoms of depression by 28% and improved users' overall mental state. These users also appear to be free of neurological injury of any kind.
(src: wiki mdma page).
Mar-19-2008 19:36
NeoPhono
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I'd argue that ecstasy in large doses also alleviates depression.
Mar-19-2008 19:51
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wtf ? how does removing serotonin from your brain alleviate depression? I think this is bs.
Mar-19-2008 20:08
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Originally posted by Dj Nacht
wtf ? how does removing serotonin from your brain alleviate depression? I think this is bs.
^Yeah, you would think it would do just the opposite, from a psysiological side...
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Mar-19-2008 20:18
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Always makes me happy.
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Mar-19-2008 20:19
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I mean, my friend always says it makes him happy.
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Mar-19-2008 20:19
cmay119
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Originally posted by Dj Nacht
wtf ? how does removing serotonin from your brain alleviate depression? I think this is bs.
Perhaps (I don't know for sure I'm not a Psychiatrist) due to the mind not releasing any or very low amounts of Serotonin when in a depressed state. I'm pretty sure the Serotonin needs to be released for the brain to actually use it (talkin' outta my ass right now, anyone know if I'm right on this or not?).
Since Ectasy releases Serotonin at a higher-than-normal rate, I could see it helping people overcome depression symptoms when on it. And may also help the brain into releasing normal levels of Serotonin afterwards?
Originally posted by Beat Blog
It's a load of shit.
Short term (i.e today only); yes, ecstasy can make you "happy".
Long term, ecstasy is a major contributor to depression.
Only someone depressed from taking too much ecstasy would have such a depressing outlook on taking ecstasy.
Mar-19-2008 20:38
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Originally posted by Beat Blog
It's a load of shit.
Short term (i.e today only); yes, ecstasy can make you "happy".
Long term, ecstasy is a major contributor to depression.
dingg
its not like you have an unlimited supply of ecstacy. yes, ecstacy helps release seratonin and yes, depression can be caused by not having enough seratonin released. however, ecstacy will most like release too much, leaving you even worse off after the comedown. from everything that i know of it, taking ecstacy is an absolutely terrible idea if you already have a seratonin inbalance, it'll only serve to fuck it up further
Originally posted by Beat Blog
It's a load of shit.
Short term (i.e today only); yes, ecstasy can make you "happy".
Long term, ecstasy is a major contributor to depression.
I don't know if I can completely agree with you on that. Although studies tend to agree with your point of view in this debate. They have later been found to be quite biassed.
I do agree that if you become dependant on any form of substance it can change your overall mental state. I would also argue though, that depression may have led said user to use Ecstasy without moderation in the first place.
So, i just finished skimming the study, and it turns out that the decreased levels of depression was determined solely from self-administered questionnaires give to the test subjects; not very reliable.
Ecstasy in moderation alleviates depression?
