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P`zazz
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Registered: Jan 2002
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Sound Quality

I Was Wondering What Type Of Media Reproduces The Highest Quality Sound. So What Type Of Media Do DJs Use? These Are The Options:

1)Vinyl
2)CD
3)MiniDisc
4)Mp3

In My Opinion 3 And 4 Are Out. Offcoarse MP3 Could Maybe Compete If Encoded To 320kbps. So We're Left Down To Vinyl And CDs. Some People Insist That CDs Produce High Quality Sound Than Vinyl But Others Say The Oposite, What Do You Guys Think?

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spectra
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Shropshire

hmm, thats a tough question... mainly its between CD's and Vinyls, since usually an MP3 is ripped from one of these types of media, u cant expect it to be better than the original. If a studio were to record a track onto a minidisc then it would be the same as them recording to a CD. Studio's sample at the one above 192kb/sec (cant remember what that is, not at home ) i think, but if its ripped straight from the studio (As in the artist records it) then it will sound better than a copy.

However whether vinyl or cd is better is debateable, i said something about it in a thread called CDJ.

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JohnSmith
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops

vinyl is the best. it's analogue so there is no approximation, it's precision is limited only be the quality of the record, the stylus and the turntable.

CD is next best, it has a pretty good frequency range, most people can't hear any lower or higher. the sample rate for CD is 44,100khz or 44 thousand times a second the sound is sampled.

that's pretty good, but not as good as vinyl.

MP3 and Minidisc are a distant 3rd and fourth. they use compression, which throws out some stuff to make the file smaller. it's stuff we mostly can't hear, but still, it isn't perfect. different compression rates make a difference, but, it's all compressed from something, therefore, of less quality than the source.

a small note, sometimes a CD can sound BETTER, because a CD never degrades. and when it's silent, it's SILENT, unlike a record which will always have some amount of noise from the needle on the groove.

so, CDs can sound nice and crisp, but they don't have the booming bass, and intricate frequency deviations possible on a record.

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Pjotr G
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Netherlands

I keep stumbling upon the same BULLSHIT (no offence)

look it all depend on how you define quality. I like the sound of vinyl better personally. However a CD can produce both higher and lower frequencies than vinyl (FACT not my opinion period)


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j_spot
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Registered: Mar 2001
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and actually above all of these is tape. well...at least for the first listen. on a very expensive machine.

but after that first time.........


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Pjotr G
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2 inch tape is indeed quite popular

.....and DAT tape


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JohnSmith
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops

quote:
Originally posted by Pjotr G
I keep stumbling upon the same BULLSHIT (no offence)

look it all depend on how you define quality. I like the sound of vinyl better personally. However a CD can produce both higher and lower frequencies than vinyl (FACT not my opinion period)


eh? i respect your opinion dude..

but, how can that be true, when a CD is a digital representation of a soundwave?

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Pjotr G
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Registered: Aug 2001
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pfff it's quite a story and I've told it on these forums before so I'm not gonna do it all again.

Anyways, what you lot say about music on CD NOT being one continuous sound wave flow, but many many very tiny bits of sound "snapshots"...that's true. But how the hell do you think vinyl works? It's also little bumps that the needle stubles across, and, I may add, that the resolution of "bumps" on CD is bigger than that on vinyl.
The vinyl groove does NOT represent the actual waveform as you can see it on for example a wave editor. If you would put for instance a sine like that on vinyl you would hear NOTHING ('cept for crackle)

So if you diss CD's for that "staircasing" as someone called it....you will have to flush vinyl down the toilet for much heavier "staircasing"

PS I like vinyl over CD myself. Not for frequency range reasons tho.


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Eugene
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Maryland USA

This is a never-ending debate.
The one thing that P`zazz should learn from it, though, is to stop this fucked up habit of writing every word with a capital letter. That annoys the hell out of everyone


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DJ LIQUID
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: IL USA

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene
The one thing that P`zazz should learn from it, though, is to stop this fucked up habit of writing every word with a capital letter. That annoys the hell out of everyone



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Pjotr G
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quote:
Originally posted by Eugene
This is a never-ending debate.


not really. Go on do a little research and find out about the technical aspect of how vinyl records work.


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P`zazz
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Registered: Jan 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Eugene
The one thing that P`zazz should learn from it, though, is to stop this fucked up habit of writing every word with a capital letter. That annoys the hell out of everyone




sorry, why didn't you say so? is this better?

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