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cybernetica
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Cologne, Germany
problem with analog outputs (echo audiofire 2)

yeh, I know I suck, I bought myself some decent equipment but I dont know the most elementary things about cables, wiring and all that stuff. Still any help would be great, because I am confused now.

So here comes:
I got myself an audio interface, echo audiofire 2.
It says it got 2 balanced audio outputs.
into output 1 I plug a stereo 1/4" jack to cinch cable. The red and white chinchs go into the monitor system (for left and right channel).

When I am playing some sound through the audiofire, I only get sound on one of the speakers. Only the red cinch cable outputs the sound correctly. White side, nada.
When I connect the cinch with the cheap onboard soundcard's 1/8" jack, it is working perfectly, but of course I want to use my nice audiofire.
I read a lot about this but I still dont get it... there are problems between balanced (my 1/4" jack) and unbalanced (the cinch) signals right? But still this knowledge does not really help me to see what is wrong or right.


How does the analog output of the audiofire or in general work? There are 2 analog outputs on my audiofire. Do they output exactly the same? Do they send a split left/right signal?

How does stereo output work? Should I connect each of the 2 analog outs of the audiofire with one monitor? Or should I stick with a split cable connecting one output with both left and right speaker?

and should I get a balanced cable like an XLR one (my monitors support them)? Would that fix my problem?

thanks.


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echosystm
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Registered: Jul 2004
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lol man!

each analog plug on the audiofire is ONE mono plug, not stereo. so "2 balanced audio outputs" is ONE stereo output, or two mono outputs. you must have one cable going to the left speaker and the other going to the right. what you are trying to do at the moment is split one mono plug into stereo.

yes, you want to use XLR. balanced is much better than unbalanced. You need TWO trs cables:



and two trs to xlr converters:



alternatively you can just get two trs-xlr cables:



make sure you get the right male/female combination.

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cybernetica
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Cologne, Germany

me= epic fail

Thanks for helping mate


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echosystm
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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by cybernetica
me= epic fail

Thanks for helping mate


no probs.

you said your monitors only have xlr, but double check if they have trs too (most do). this way you can avoid the whole trs (soundcard) to xlr (monitors) thing.

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Eldritch
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Sweden

Haha. Indeed, Left should go to Analog 1 and Right to Analog 2. You made a great choice. I have an AudioFire 4 myself, and I love it.

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Nicolas Oliver
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quote:
Originally posted by echosystm


quote:
Originally posted by Eldritch


In the fall (or perhaps sooner)--i.e., when I'll be out of school and finally be able to focus solely on producing--I will probably msg you guys about setting up my Audiofire 4 (esp. since I have very little understanding about configuring the software included )...That is, if you don't mind haha

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Chronosis
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Is there any way to have 2 or more applications using simultaneously the analog output?

I can't switch playback between Cubase and Foobar without closing one application. I can't even have Foobar open at the same with Firefox, if I want to watch videos from youtube.


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Storyteller
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Stop using asio drivers in cubase. That should solve it.


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Chronosis
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quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
Stop using asio drivers in cubase. That should solve it.


Are you serious?

Anyways, went to Echo Audios site and they have released new drivers 3 days ago, which make the simultaneous playback of Firefox & Foobar possible. Still the routing could be improved a lot...


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Zak McKracken
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it works perfect for me and i have both audiofire 2 and 12 in serie on the same firewire plug.

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Storyteller
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quote:
Originally posted by Chronosis
Are you serious?


Yes, or tag the release asio drivers on background option (if it still exists) in Cubase. When using asio drivers in your music application all in- and outputs will be reserved for that application only. Unless you tag the aforementioned option or switch to directx drivers which allow shared access to a single output/device.

I don't know what Foobar is, but unless it's an asio using audio application I can't see why it would require exclusive access to your soundcard.

quote:
Originally posted by Chronosis Anyways, went to Echo Audios site and they have released new drivers 3 days ago, which make the simultaneous playback of Firefox & Foobar possible. Still the routing could be improved a lot...


I just updated my drivers yesterday, will try and see what changed (other than the console which changed a tiny bit)


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echosystm
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i'd suggest you guys invest in one of these, probably the handiest piece of gear i own. it has an aux in which you can use your onboard sound with. this way, you can have your onboard sound and pro sound card running through your monitors at the flick of a switch.

i like leaving my onboard sound enabled like this, so that i can set it as the default windows device. this way, you know your asio driver will never get interrupted by bullshit.

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