i dont know much about the zen but ive had three different ipods, all of which have died on me. my suggestion is to stay the hell away from apple products

I've had nothing but great experiences with the Ipod. I listen to my 40gb model every night at work roughly 6 hours and have been doing so for over 2 years. Still works perfectly. Same with my dad's 20GB. Apple makes quality products..Just don't drop them and you'll be fine

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Originally posted by klingklang77 The Classic 80 gig ipod or 16 gig creative zen? One is hard drive and one is flash drive. I listen to it on the train, at the gym and at home. Which would you buy?

i did buy the zen, 16...and i love it.

it might need a firmware update, which i had a few probs with, and eventually worked out with no data loss. but over all it does everything great. if you havent used a creative before tho, note that they use ID tags to organize music. you can make playlists to get around this, like i do, but for some people that is just too much hassle. (although WMP11 and winamp can help you re tag them, as well as some other programs)

the battery life really is as good as they claim, usually around 20-22 hours, depending on how often you mess with it(just music). and if you are gonna be in the gym i would avoid the 80gig as HD players break easier. (and you likely do not need 80 gigs of music with you ALL the time, keep the rest on your comp)

i love the fact you can upgrade the SDHC memory, currently looking into an 8-16 card, alt the external card isnt supported amongst the normal directory, so its best for vids mostly.

if you intend on using videos definitely check out iriverter as the creative video converter sucks ass and doesnt support everything it claims to. i managed to get a simpsons ep down to half its standard ripped size and it still played totally smooth.

i would check out getting the screen protector/sticker thing. its overpriced but none of the cases come with a scratch protector, and while i didnt damage the screen before the protector - now i dont have to worry much|

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OH and i got these headphones for it, not to expensive but an amazing difference from the shit stock ones:

http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-Bass-F...g/dp/B000FUESSU

stupid name, and they arent too bass heavy. perfect for EDM in most cases|


(pardon my gramamr, i am about to go to sleep)

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Originally posted by biznology i did buy the zen, 16...and i love it. it might need a firmware update, which i had a few probs with, and eventually worked out with no data loss. but over all it does everything great. if you havent used a creative before tho, note that they use ID tags to organize music. you can make playlists to get around this, like i do, but for some people that is just too much hassle. (although WMP11 and winamp can help you re tag them, as well as some other programs)

Even on stuff from CDs? Sorry I never really tag, I just rename songs. Forgive my ignorance...

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ive got a 30 gig zen
i love it to bits, does everything i want it to do
never ever had a problem with it

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Originally posted by klingklang77 Even on stuff from CDs? Sorry I never really tag, I just rename songs. Forgive my ignorance...

well i used an external cd ripper initially and that meant i had to then go into winamp separately and then rename the tags...i think the newer versions of winamp will rip and ID them, and the newest can rip straight to the player, i just havent messed with it yet.

tbh i usually just load the album, and then make a playlist, the software is really simple and searching the playlists is much more efficient than trudging through 8000 bogus TA ID'd tracks.

its just something to consider, and you might have to mess around a little. iTunes will be a little more organizationally friendly, but then its iTunes too, so it will limit your ability to move your music, et al.

i know the prices arent comparable, but if you could consider it i would look into a Touch(if you want to go the Apple route) instead of the 80gig from what you noted. but then again they are more|

that all being said, i am totally happy with the Zen...the price rocks, the upgradability rocks, the no hard drive rocks, and my gf became jealous of me because her creative was a year or so old...

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Price is a factor, so no Itouch for me. Looking to spend $250 all around with accessories and maybe headphones.

Thank you for your help! I think I would be able to figure out the software. Any problems with Vista?

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Zen.

Pods are rubbish made for idiots who like flashy, gimmicky commercials and aesthetically pleasing products, rather than useful products made by companies with some clue of what they're doing.

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Originally posted by Capitalizt I've had nothing but great experiences with the Ipod. I listen to my 40gb model every night at work roughly 6 hours and have been doing so for over 2 years. Still works perfectly. Same with my dad's 20GB. Apple makes quality products..Just don't drop them and you'll be fine

i love what a corporate whore you are

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Definitely stay away from the iTouch, but nothing wrong with the Classic iPod. I've had my 30gb model for almost 2 years and have only ever had one problem which was during a firware update. Just had to reset it and it was fine.
Don't listen to idiots who spew hate for the iPod just because it's the cool thing to do. If there's one thing that Apple can do right, it's the iPod. Classic model to specific.

As for the Zen, I've also heard generally good things about it too. It's pretty sturdy, but some people do complain that it can be a bit tough to get used to. Personal preference I guess. Go down to the shops and give both a go.

There's also the storage issue to factor in. The iPod has much more space but is a bit more expensive correct?

Regardless of what you get, you might want to spend a bit more on good headphones too. The Sennheiser CX300s are very popular for a very good reason, and shouldn't set you back more than US$50.

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