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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism

Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas
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| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
its pretty fucking trivial and your "concerns" reek of a partisan hatchet job |
his Philly speech was trivial?
we're choosing one man to run our country. i don't doubt for a second from where you sit it matter's too much...or does it?
when Bushitler says things like, "that our troops be safe, be protected by the Almighty" or, "I was praying for strength to do the Lord's will." or, "I'm surely not going to justify war based upon God. Understand that. Nevertheless, in my case, I pray that I will be as good a messenger of His will as possible. And then of course, I pray for forgiveness." or in the words of Palestinian leaders "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did."
you believe him, right?
as hair-brained and backwards and stupid as you may think uttering those words may be, even from the leader of the free world, you believe him.
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Jun-01-2008 02:11
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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism

Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas
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| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
OK, so first he gives a speech in Philly where he basically says that he neither condones or agrees with what has been said, but tries to explain the reasoning behind his pastor's comments. Then he decides to no longer be a part of a church with a pastor he has already said he may sympathize with but not agree with.
I guess I just don't see the issue.
I've had friends and acquaintances that have done or said stupid stuff and I've decided to no longer associate with them. That didn't make me "full of shit," because I used to call them friend. Generally speaking, the reason I associate with someone is because of what they say and do. When what they say or do changes, I stay away.
I guess Obama doesn't get to do that without being criticized. |
after 20 years does he know what his church (formerly) was all about? he wanted us to believe he did.
does Trinity embody the black community in it's entirety? he wanted us to believe it did.
or is this the political expediency of an old kind of politician, as opposed to the "new kind" we've all been hearing about? he wants you to believe he is
therefore, IMHO about race and the politics of race, forget about Wright and what he has written many times about him, indeed he's full of shit.
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Why not join another church? And I confess that if all that I knew of Reverend Wright were the snippets of those sermons that have run in an endless loop on the television and You Tube, or if Trinity United Church of Christ conformed to the caricatures being peddled by some commentators, there is no doubt that I would react in much the same way…. |
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Jun-01-2008 04:18
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Groundhog Boy
Stupidity Offends Me

Registered: May 2005
Location: New York, NY
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He did it because the incident from this past weekend just proved that his church is going to be a neverending distraction as long as it's in the picture.
I'm disappointed that he caved, btw.
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Jun-01-2008 08:17
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