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LoveHate
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Registered: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver
so freakin hard to make a song

this is not a rant thread or a newb thread.

what im saying is

i can get a melody, bass line, and drums down easily aswell as mixing ..but the problem is i dont know what to do with it afterwards as far as all of the effects and stuff that goes along with a typical edm track.

my question is how long did it take you to master all of the technical stuff?

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Vortex_SA
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: rehovot

i wouldnt say i mastered the technical stuff... as i think there always will be room for improvement, anyway, i guess after two or three yrs for me i made stuff that sounded not so terrible but currently im producing like 8 yrs already and i find myself focusing more on the theoretic stuff (what feeling do i want to get? i need to make stuff hover, stuff like that...), these days after learning every possible synthesis technique, i find myself making sounds within minutes, but fxs are the most problematic... you dont actually know what it should sound like, you know what feeling you want from it, and just fcking around with a synthesizer rarely does the job... so you need to think really hard and discover exactly what you want... and thats really difficult...

i also found out that when i take some time off wandering outside the studio and thinking bout my current project i find more ideas to put in there...


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daeus
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: London

I find a mixture of the following will help advance your production -

Practicing new prod techniques (going through online guides for every part of producing Percs,Basslines etc..)

Experimenting for long times on each VST you have (only use a few VSTS first off)

Listening to the style of trance you want to produce for inspiration

Reading the forums on things you want to know about/ask questions about.

Generally playing around


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Registered: Nov 2002
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In my experience, when you have the bass ready everything else comes together much faster.


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ASFSE
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the process comes with time and experience

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Subtle
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Registered: Nov 2002
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quote:
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the process comes with time and experience
Yeah, thats all really. Spend time, get experience.. the rest will come by itself.


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alanzo
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Boston, MA
Re: so freakin hard to make a song

quote:
Originally posted by LoveHate
my question is how long did it take you to master all of the technical stuff?


I'm going on 8 years and my tracks still suck ....


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Magnus
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Seattle, WA

Don't feel bad this is quite a common problem and one I hear often. All I can say is keep at it and when it gets frustrating, take a break and do something else for a while and then return when you are ready. What I like to do sometimes is build the skeleton of an entire track then work it out from there. Copy what you have completed for a good stretch and then play it out and start editing it live where you feel things should go or when your mind triggers something. I've come up with some cool things by complete accident by doing this. Good luck!


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DjAyTeKnOtRoNiC
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Registered: Apr 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by daeus
going through online guides for every part of producing Percs,Basslines etc..)
Any guides you can recommend for basslines, or percs?


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Registered: Dec 2002
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Re: so freakin hard to make a song

quote:
Originally posted by LoveHate
i can get a melody, bass line, and drums down easily aswell as mixing ..but the problem is i dont know what to do with it afterwards as far as all of the effects and stuff that goes along with a typical edm track.

If you think you have all of those things but it still doesn't sound like a "typical" EDM track, then you don't have all those things.

Lots of popular tracks out there don't have much in the way of effects.


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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: London UK

Years upon years of practice and frustration.


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Re: Re: so freakin hard to make a song

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
I'm going on 8 years and my tracks still suck ....


Yah, coming from the guy who has had like 5 songs released to date.


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