Vince Clarke also uses this term, and i think he has proven his musical skills a while ago... i think youre misunderstanding the term, i personnaly use it to describe all the sound designing in the synth as programming... i never saw this term used in any other use actually... you write melodies to a synths you programmed...

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Originally posted by richg101 do so many new producers use the term 'Programming' in their production speak? I never 'program a melody', or 'program any drum pattern' or even 'program a synth'. programming to me refers to inputing data into a computer in order for it to carry out boring 'grey' work. music is all about 'writing' not 'programming'. This overuse of the word 'programming' tends to suggest that its users are more technicians than musicians or maybe is it an attempt to make the process sound more technical to those less informed? what do others think on this subject?

Making a sound from scratch on a synth, or creating samples IMO isn't writing... its "grey work" hence programming

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1/ They are geeks
2/ this is an internet forum, therefore, many of its users will be geeks
3/ it sounds more "proffessional" not like you doing some pussy arty business. Like your mum goes "so Johnny what are you doing for a job?" "I'm programming synthesisers mum." MUCH more professional.
4/ Many new people don't own midi keyboards yet, so they are "programming" more than writing in my opinion.

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i suppose the word programming can be associated with a more systematic approach, which in turn can be seen by some as "less creative".

but regarding your definition "programming to me refers to inputing data" they arent wrong when they say they "program" a synth etc. Does it sound more posh?.....perhaps, but does it matter?

personally i dont loose sleep over it, nor does it bother me in the slightest what terms people use.

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I tend to say 'design a patch' rather than 'program a patch'. I programming is for payment. Designing is for fun.

This is a pretty dumb thing to rant about, though.

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i like to call it programming but it isnt, for me its mostly turning knobs and designing soundscapes, its DEF not writing going on over here atleast. writing music to me is testing diferent stuff on a piano then writing it down on paper, means u got to know notes which i dont, also i dont need too for what music i try to make. designing is maybe the most right word ?

I don't use the term "programming" personally.

I "design" patches and sounds.

I "write" melodies and drum patterns.

I "arrange" tracks.

But I reject one of the premises of the opening post, which seems to be that "programming" is necessarily an uncreative activity. Somebody else's "creative programming" is why all of us get to make our music with synths and computers!

i say "work on music"

but so what?

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I'm sure it was exceedingly boring for the programmers writing Halo 2.

I reject both of your premises. First of all, software development requires immense creativity, as just about any company that has tried and failed to offshore their entire process can no doubt tell you. Second, less than half of the so-called "musicians" in here can actually read or write music, so it's hardly apt to call it that.

"Programming" is in fact the closest analogy I can think of. Some very talented people can "program" a work of art; others (the majority) really do reduce it to the most mundane and boring of tasks.

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Programming just has a nice ring to it, like you actually know what your doing :-d

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