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JonDC
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PVD - New York City (long version)

This is my favourite tune of the in between album, but I have a problem with the'Long version' that I bought from the vonnyc website (which is not longer a download store as far as I'm aware).

Firstly, when I burn it the tune seems to think it is 55 mins long when in reality its only 8:28. This isn't a problem as I can still fit it onto a cd and my cd decks read it as 8:28 when playing.

What is far more annoying though, is when the main lead comes in at 1:45 the tune changes pitch significantly, and its really difficult to keep it in time for the next 4 phrases before the vocal comes in. It does the same thing again when the lead ands at around 7:28, shifting up in bpm. so unless im really on the ball, im likely to cock up 2 mixes in a row!

Does anyone else have this same problem with the tune? or did you buy it somewhere else and it works fine?

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Old Post Jun-17-2008 10:55  United Kingdom
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Fledz
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VONYC mp3s are VBR, not CBR so many players cannot use them properly.

Re-encode it to CBR or get them to email you the Wav file and re-encode that.

VONYC was rubbish by the way. It's actually kind of good to see poor stores shut down and VONYC was a poor store.


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JonDC
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would that impact on the tempo change, or is it just the 'length' of the track that it affects?

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Lunar Phase 7
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Could you post a sample of this pitch shift?

I've never really heard of this before, unless it has been on purpose. For example Matt Williams and Phil Reynolds - War On Drugs does this, but it sounds mint when it does.


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JonDC
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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
Could you post a sample of this pitch shift?

I've never really heard of this before, unless it has been on purpose. For example Matt Williams and Phil Reynolds - War On Drugs does this, but it sounds mint when it does.


you'd never notice it just by listening. but unless you adjust it by like 0.10% (cant remember if its + or -) it invariably drifts out of time. I thought I just wasnt on form the first few times, but it's definatly the tune and not me

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i bought the whole album from itunes, even though it doesn't say "long mix" or anything, the whole album was unmixed == long versions. Works fine in ableton, warp markers line up nicely.

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Lunar Phase 7
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quote:
Originally posted by JonDC
you'd never notice it just by listening. but unless you adjust it by like 0.10% (cant remember if its + or -) it invariably drifts out of time. I thought I just wasnt on form the first few times, but it's definatly the tune and not me


It's gonna be a vinyl rip then.

I've got tracks like that. Fucking annoying as hell. CDJs dont like vinyl rips.


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quote:
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would that impact on the tempo change, or is it just the 'length' of the track that it affects?

It shouldn't though I'm not 100% sure to be quite honest with you.


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Yeah it would impact on the tempo I think... Because sample rate is related to pitch (did you see that van halen video?) and pitch is related to tempo. So when the sample rate goes up (because its VBR) the tempo goes down(?) anyway, hope that makes sense. Poor show with your CDJs not handling the VBR right.


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quote:
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Yeah it would impact on the tempo I think... Because sample rate is related to pitch (did you see that van halen video?) and pitch is related to tempo. So when the sample rate goes up (because its VBR) the tempo goes down(?) anyway, hope that makes sense. Poor show with your CDJs not handling the VBR right.


Its rather the burn program that has the wrong handling. I suppose he burned a Audio CD and Audio CDs don't have VBR


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quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
Yeah it would impact on the tempo I think... Because sample rate is related to pitch (did you see that van halen video?) and pitch is related to tempo. So when the sample rate goes up (because its VBR) the tempo goes down(?) anyway, hope that makes sense. Poor show with your CDJs not handling the VBR right.


sample rate does not affect pitch


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