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lowski
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| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
Whats wrong with converting the mp3 to wav before working with it in Recycle? I dont see why this is a big deal, there are tons of freeware programs out there that do this. This is not a limitation of the program, as you shouldn't be working with mp3 anyway since it is a compressed file format.
Any program that allows you to edit audio from mp3's is probably just converting it to wav in the background anyway. Mp3 is so not sufficient for within in a professional audio environment. You should always be working with and uncompressed file format such as WAV or AIF files.
Also trying to do a remix without having the individual parts is probably not going to yield much success. While you can attempt to remove parts with creative EQing, you'll never be able to get a clean enough copy to have anything useful.
You can try it, and see what you come up with. Good luck. |
ok first thing; converting a mp3 to wav i heard results terable outcomes. that is something i have heard on this board??? so... i take it all into serious consideration. so if i can take a 320kbps sample and turn it into a wav file with a free downloadable program, i'm not going to lose too much quialty?. pretty much for samples i don't even think i need to be overly concered with the sample quality since most parts are going to be drowned out just to fit in the song. andalso from what i remember from most songs is that the main sample always seems a bit budget... if that's even the right word. but bassicaly less quialty and as longs as the main parts of the sample can shine through (which aren;t even gonna be that much) it's good enough.?
as for mp3 being a limition of the program, i believe it is with the regards that it can not open/play a mp3 file but only a wav.
which really brings me to the ultimate qeustion of how bootleg songs are done?. i hear in some remixes that they just take a sample straight out of the original track (drums guitar and all)and work it to there favour. so basicly what i assume is that there are producers using files other the wav (for the simple fact that every bootleg can't be properly licenced and containing the proper wav samples)
so i'm really wondering is what kind of files are people using, and getting away with "mp3?" good results.
but also as you said trying to do a remix without the proper parts, i agree, it probably isn't gonna yeild the best results. having remix parts is idle. although in my case, for some of the songs i want or have heard remixed, i doubt there even was a 320 release of the original track to take from. let alone even having the luxury of sample parts in wav. so it's on that level that im wondering what you can get away with. or is it just another story of having to use your ear

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Jun-13-2008 16:44
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Zak McKracken
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it wont get worse nor better by "extracting" it to wav. do not complain about proppelerhead software. most of it is perfect.
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Jun-13-2008 20:13
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Eric J
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Jun-18-2008 19:33
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derail
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Do you have any sort of wave editing software, such as Wavelab or Soundforge? (there are plenty of free ones out there as well). There are many, many, many options for converting mp3s to WAV files. I just typed in "mp3 to WAV" in google and it gave me 1,590,000 results.
You will not lose quality going from a 320Kb mp3 to a WAV. The WAV format has capacity for about four times the information of a 320K mp3. It won't make it sound better (since mp3 is a lossy format, even at 320, it'll be missing some things from the original WAV file it was converted from - going from WAV to 320Kb mp3 you'll definitely lose quality, going the other way you won't lose quality, but you definitely won't gain back the quality that was lost earlier).
A lot of remixes of old tracks are done by getting access to the original multitrack recordings. As Eric J said, you could try some creative EQing, but the results will likely sound horrible. Better to find tracks which have certain elements exposed - a verse containing a vocal and only a soft guitar, or an intro to a song which has just the main guitar riff with no drums or bass or anything else. (on a side note, I don't quite understand your point about old songs not being available as 320Kb mp3s - why is this an issue? I'm sure they're available as vinyls, which can sound subjectively better to some people - in any case, recording the vinyl into your sequencer of choice at full WAV quality will easily give you the quality you're after - plus will have a wider frequency/dynamic range than a 320Kb mp3)
As for Recycle, it helps to read up on products you're paying good money for, whether they'll do what you want them to or not, before you buy them.
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Jun-19-2008 02:46
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