i believe the soundbite xl has a midi clock while the pvdj grabber doesnt.

but otherwise same looping capabilities

These loopers have been launched by so many different manufacturers, I think they are in their fourth incarnation!

Personally, I had nightmare experiences with them (several units) when they were redsound, and they kept breaking, the BPM counter was unreliable, and when they looped it sounded like crap.

I know they got a bit better with later models, but I would stay away if possible.

i know guys like digweed,cox, the minus crew they live by the soundbite xl/pros

I have a PVDJ grabber, it works fine. The BPM engine is far from perfect, but if you learn how to make the corrections, you can wind up with relatively perfect loops. Learning how to disengage the BPM engine and lock in a tempo will also help.

I also only paid about $80 for it. Money well spent, IMO.

Would it be able to auto-sync "beatless" tracks, like acappellas?

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Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs Would it be able to auto-sync "beatless" tracks, like acappellas?

only if you know their exact bpm and input the bpm manually. it can't detect the tempo from "beatless" stuff.

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Originally posted by i got big pants i believe the soundbite xl has a midi clock while the pvdj grabber doesnt.

It's the Soundbite Micro that has MIDI clock.

The PVDJ Grabber is the oldest version. The Soundbite XL is the newer version and has a couple more options, such as filters (HP,BP,LP) and three different looping group options

1, 2, 4, 4, 8, 16 beats (default setting)
1/4, 1/2, 1, 4, 8, 16 beats
1/4, 1/2, 1, 4, 4, 32 beats

The PVDJ Grabber only has the default loop lengths, and no filters. Pretty basic.

Then to make things more confusing, there's the Soundbite Pro, which is the newest version and is the same as the XL, but with 1GB internal memory to store samples/loops. The Grabber and XL do not have internal memory to store anything. Also the Pro has a USB connection and comes with software to load the samples and customize loop settings.


I only have the PVDJ Grabber and love it. Would love to get the Pro. Highly recommend any of them.

Last edited by Konix on Jul-30-2008 at 04:17

Just got the PVDJ off ebay for $70

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Originally posted by DJ RANN These loopers have been launched by so many different manufacturers, I think they are in their fourth incarnation! Personally, I had nightmare experiences with them (several units) when they were redsound, and they kept breaking, the BPM counter was unreliable, and when they looped it sounded like crap. I know they got a bit better with later models, but I would stay away if possible.

I got the first redsound model and it worked fine for about a year. but with heavy use I encountered a number of problems with it.

I have faith that the new ones will be much better considering the number of people now using them. I'm going to get one along with a new set of monitors. soon.

if your not using the send and return, and are going through the headphone out with either model...that you have to have the volume ridiculously high in order for the volume to be on par with what your playing

can anybody confirm?