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djandymac
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Middlesbrough
Can you do without a sub monitor?

I have a pair of m-audio bx5a monitors at the moment and was thinking of buying the bx10s sub woofer to go with them. but what i want to know is is it really necessary to have one or can just as good work be done without it?


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Zak McKracken
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i just made myself a sub and i have no idea how i could do without, things are suddenly fun again

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djandymac
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Registered: Jun 2008
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ahhh cool, think ill invest in one then, the bx10s also comes with pedal which when pressed cuts the sub so u can hear what it sounds like without it, which must be a handy thing


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Zak McKracken
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seems like a solid sub

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djandymac
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also where do u have your sub? is it on the floor or level with ur monitors ?


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cryophonik
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Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA

I've got a friend with the BX5a's and he has the sub. It sounds pretty good, IMO. I've got the Yamaha HS80Ms and I've been considering picking up the matching sub because I have a tendency to overemphasize the low frequencies in my mixes, which indicates that I'm not hearing them correctly, so I'm starting to think that having a sub may help me de-emphasize those frequencies.


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cybernetica
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Cologne, Germany

A sub never hurts, but IMO in regular trance its not really THAT essential, from my experience the main bassline frequencies in Trance are above sub range, that is with a standard saw bassline, more sophisticated basslines almost always require attention on the subs, and if youre planning on producing other genres like DnB a sub becomes more than essential.


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richg101
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my plan is a stereo pair of 18" bass reflex cabinets. with processing from an xta box ill get a nice flat resp down to 25hz. and this is at outputs of 120db @ 1m. i think if a sub is a good one it will help you a great deal. be aware that simply adding a sub wont definately add any more working frequency response, but will improve bass levels in spaces that need an increase. ideally i would look into a loudspeaker management system like a dbx driverack or similar. it will allow you to eq your sub and monitors as well as add delay so the system is correctly timed for your seating position. though i have not utilised this approach in a studio environment yet, its something i have used extensively in the live sound game.


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maximlee
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are you serious.... unless your doing jungle or drum n bass your wasting your money... producers ge so wrapped up in what they think they need....they dont write music...

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Ry Thomas
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I much prefer using a sub


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jupiterone
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: los angeles

i've been doing without one from day one. i've now been producing in headphones and i like it

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cryophonik
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Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA
Re: sub

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Originally posted by maximlee
are you serious.... unless your doing jungle or drum n bass your wasting your money... producers ge so wrapped up in what they think they need....they dont write music...


Are YOU serious? Do you really not understand that having a proper mixing environment and system with good accuracy in ALL audible frequency ranges is NOT specific to one or two genres? You don't buy a subwoofer for a studio monitoring system so you can dance to it; you buy one if that's what you need to get better and more transferable mixes, whether it's for trance, DnB, RnB, rock, pop, country, classical, or any other genre.

And, as far as I can tell, most folks around here are producing music and not just sitting around pondering their equipment needs.


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