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Ray_Chappell
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Vocoder - Reason - completely stumped... any help?

Ok, I'm am completely stumped. I've done everything I know to do and am ready to post what is probably going to be a dumb ass question... but it's a last resort - I'm stuck.

I'm using my vocoder in Reason. Technically, I'm not. It's not working. I've hooked this up before a dozen times but for some reason I can't get this work right tonight.

Below are screen shots of my wiring. When I move the vocoder from entirely wet to dry I hear the voice from the sampler. When I switch back, nothing - not when I assign the controller to the synth nor to the sampler. I've even checked a few tutorials to double check wiring and everything... nothing - I tried changing the patch on the Malstrom, tried using Thor, made sure I wasn't using a sine, please help. I'm wasting an entire evening in the studio with this.



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MrJiveBoJingles
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Everything looks like it should be working. I can have a look at the .rns file if you don't mind sending it.

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Ray_Chappell
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Just pm'd you the links. Any help appreciated!

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MrJiveBoJingles
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I got it working. I think the problem was that you just didn't have any notes written down for the sampler to play.



Here's the modified .rns file:

http://www.philosophaster.com/music...ixedvocoder.rns

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Sonic_c
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Do you know how to use the CV from the vocoder as effects controllers?

I can twist shit inside out with the vocoder I could send you an example if you like.


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Ray_Chappell
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Thanks for checking this out. You're right, writing the notes in seems to have it up and running. Half my headache is gone already.

One question though - when I've set this up in the past I've been able to just play the notes from my controller to initiate the sampler - I shouldn't have to draw them in there, should I?

Again - really appreciate the help!

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Sonic_c
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Remember the Carrier signal malstrom needs to be triggered as well as the sampler. Write a chord seq in malstrom and then trigger the sampler and run it


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MrJiveBoJingles
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^ Sonic_c has it right.

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Jimb0b
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Yes, the vocoder needs an input from your NN19 or whatever, but also needs a carrier (ie notes on the vocoders channel - usually a chord) for it to work. Without any carrier you will have no sound.

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MrJiveBoJingles
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I love using Reason's vocoder as an EQ. You can get some really great sounds by making some radical cuts or boosts and then running the result through a distortion unit.

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Sonic_c
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Does anyone use it as an effects controller?

I learned this uncommon use from a friend its a bit complex for someone new to reason. I might post a picture tutorial or I will make a combinator and post a link.


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Lana
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Do you know how to use the CV from the vocoder as effects controllers?

I can twist shit inside out with the vocoder I could send you an example if you like.


That sound really cool!

At leat I would be really interested about this!!

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