hey guys i was wondering why and when i would want to pan something. the only time i have hear of it being used is to correct a conflict of frequency from two sounds, which doesn't seem like the best idea.
is there any other times i would want to do this?
thanks

oh yeah and i meen for dance music, i know in rock the guitars get panned pretty hard.

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Originally posted by lowski hey guys i was wondering why and when i would want to pan something. the only time i have hear of it being used is to correct a conflict of frequency from two sounds, which doesn't seem like the best idea. is there any other times i would want to do this? thanks oh yeah and i meen for dance music, i know in rock the guitars get panned pretty hard.

i sometimes pan one hihat to the left and on to the right and it fills out the sound , and with effects to get the appearance that it shoots from one side to the other. other sounds pan also to give a sense of width

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Panning and reverb give depth and breadth to a song. If you read any music engineering document they will mention the use of it.

If you listen to any song, you will hear stuff being panned.

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Originally posted by lowski hey guys i was wondering why and when i would want to pan something. the only time i have hear of it being used is to correct a conflict of frequency from two sounds, which doesn't seem like the best idea. is there any other times i would want to do this? thanks oh yeah and i meen for dance music, i know in rock the guitars get panned pretty hard.

It just creates more space in the mix. High frequencies are more suscpetible to panning, meaning they'll sound hard panned without much actual panning. Its not usually used on kicks and bass but its often used to give more space to stuff like cymbals, hats, pads, leads etc.

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I recently learned a lot about this so ill share with you

The human ear is a very acute sense. We gage everything that is around us with our ears. For example right now I am in my office I can hear without looking where people are in the room on the phone etc. Imagine what it would be like for me if all those people were speaking from exactly the same direction and distance how could I tell who was who? or where they were?

We subconsciously reference everything we hear against what have learned from our experiences. As a result our emotions change and we react differently to where we here a sound coming from.

Imagine that you are camping in the wood alone and its dark. Extreme granted but you here a twig snap somewhere in front of you your reaction would be to get ready in case something is coming. Now imagine instead of hearing it in front of you, it comes from immediately behind you I’m sure your reaction would be very different you might run or jump at least.

Its the same with music we imagine music to be coming from a stage or at least some location in front of us. We call this imaginary stage the soundscape If we use a band for example. We are expecting things like the drums to be coming from the drummer usually in the middle this goes for the bass too we are also expecting the vocals to be centre stage so these things sound natural in the middle. The reason the music has some depth is that the guitarist or trumpet player or whatever might be to the left a little and the keyboard player to the right this gives us a three dimentional soundscape from which to appreciate the music with.

Its the same with trance you try panning the kickdrum to the extreme right and the vocals or main lead to the extreme left it will undoubtedly sound silly and unnatural. Put these both in the centre and it will sound natural but a little flat so we do subtle things like pan different hi-hats to the left and right as they appear on a drum set for example. We position our leads and melodies a little to the left and right to give a bit more depth.

It can also be used to help things pull through the mix panning allows us to have more room for individual instruments on each channel as the speaker is not moving so much in the freq on that channel.

Some trance artist get creative and automate the pan to swirl around you whilst parts of your mix remain constant. This is great with pads or fx it gives space and adds to the euphoric effect of moody sections of a song. It also serves to keep the listener entertained and makes the song seem less static.

To summarise this is vital to creating a realistic and professional “live” sounding production. So get creative with fx etc and consider the example of a band on a stage when panning, also consider how your emotion changes when you hear different sounds from different places.

I hope this helps

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Processing a highly structured and complex pattern of sensory input as a unified percept of "music" is probably one of the most elaborate features of the human brain.....understanding how music is perceived and how it may elicit intense sensations is far from being understood.

You've been making really good posts.

Normally I expect people who are new to the forum to ask questions that have already been answered a thousand times rather than helping other people out, but you're definitely an exception to that.

Lol i started off asking questions about stuff that had been covered before that but the forum regulars quickly got annoyed with me so I thought that I would start trying to share what i know too!

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Processing a highly structured and complex pattern of sensory input as a unified percept of "music" is probably one of the most elaborate features of the human brain.....understanding how music is perceived and how it may elicit intense sensations is far from being understood.

the panning puts an element into the right channel or the left channel or something in between. u wonder whats the point of that? well whats the point at all realy?

Whats the point of stereo ?

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Originally posted by Subtle Whats the point of stereo ?

Is this a rhetorical question, or are you actually asking?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Is this a rhetorical question, or are you actually asking?

rhetorical, its the same question really.

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