Hey guys. New to the forum here, it look like an awesome place!

I'm just beginning to get into trance production, I'm quite the novice. My biggest question now, is how to get the big whoosh/rise and fall sounds that are so typical of trance, especially before a big climatic part of the song. I read online where it is possible to filter white noise? But I wouldn't know exactly how to go about that. I'm looking for any possible help you could offer me! Thanks guys

White noise with lowpass filter using approximately 1/3 of resonance on the filter. and then just tweak the filter button in real time or you can use the filter envelopes.

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If you have reason this is how to do it get a lovely Gated whoosh with white nouise

1. Take a subtractor

2. draw a note about 32 beats long and set your sequncer to loop you should now hear the sub playing a long note over and over

4. Initialise the patch by right clicking on the subtractor and clicking initialise patch. The sound will now have changed

5. turn mix control on subtractor to far right you should now not hear anything as osc 2 is not on

6. turn on the noise generator now you shoud hear white noise over and over

7. turn the amps attack to 91 sustain max decay 49 and release to 0

Now to sound should be rising without any filter messing

8, Set filter ones setting to frequency 49 Resonance 23

9, Set filter 2 freq 127 res 30

10 Set LFO 1 to sync 1/16 and amount 127 and set it to affect f.freq

11, Set LFO 2 to Rate 0 Amount 127 and to affect F.freq 2

Assuming you know why these setting work then you will know if you dont want a gated effect turn LFO 1 off etc etc

Unfortunatley you cant sync LFO 2 so you will have to mixdown 64 beats and select the good part. Or change length etc

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forgot to mention that I'm using Logic Pro 8 software exclusively for my work, if that helps. I'm not very familiar with a lot of term so excuse my ignorance...what's a subtractor?

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Originally posted by variousguests forgot to mention that I'm using Logic Pro 8 software exclusively for my work, if that helps. I'm not very familiar with a lot of term so excuse my ignorance...what's a subtractor?

It's if you use Reason.

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Originally posted by variousguests forgot to mention that I'm using Logic Pro 8 software exclusively for my work, if that helps. I'm not very familiar with a lot of term so excuse my ignorance...what's a subtractor?

Fire up ES P, turn down all the other oscillators except the noise OSC. Turn the Attack, Decay and Release down to zero. Turn Sustain up to 100. Use the cutoff frequency knob to sweep from low to high.

I've made my own with varying results. I prefer starting with the uplifter and downlifter swooshes in something like the Vengeance FX (vol. I and II) and tweaking/mangling the sounds from there.

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Thanks for all the tips. Eric J, your advice is working well. Subtle, I haven't tried your approach yet, but I'll get right on it.

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Originally posted by cryophonik I've made my own with varying results. I prefer starting with the uplifter and downlifter swooshes in something like the Vengeance FX (vol. I and II) and tweaking/mangling the sounds from there.

I'll second the Vengeance FX series. Making your own with noise samples and filters can definitely be very versatile and tailor made, but you could also supplement it with a variety of great sounding effects such as this series has. The sound effects are incredibly varied and will require less work than trying to come up with a new, creative way of filtering/ effecting white noise every time you need an effect.

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Originally posted by Subtle White noise with lowpass filter using approximately 1/3 of resonance on the filter. and then just tweak the filter button in real time or you can use the filter envelopes.

Now add Camel Audio and you will have some really cool and original Fx's .

Kopi =o.

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Sometimes I slap eithe a chorus FX or STereo enhancer FX on my wind wooshes, I dunno about you guys but with out one of those it tends to dominate my mix.

One of my favorite things to play with.
Noise is incredible to add texture and ambience as well as those ascending/descending bridges to new patterns.

My comment: Experiment with EVERYTHING.
Multiple phasers and chorus, flangers, filters, put some LFOs on quick and some on slow.
Sweep automations which is pretty general.

Also run a distorted sine/saw/square or triangle wav on low with the noise. You can change the pitches with these wavs as the noise changes. Noise can just be molded in so many different ways.

Experiment!