READ : 'alternative' people's opinion in belgium towards trance music
hey
Here's someone's opinion about trance, i don't know where it comes from, but this could easily be one of belgium's alterntive community saying his opinion about trance music, sadly enough & i hate it... (not that they have their own opinion, but just their attitude) :
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The trance that i hear (and this may well be untipical of the genre) is on the whole extremely twee music its fast and forcefull but it never seems to know where its going, its often very polished music theres no glitches or dirt etc, that kind of removes the sound i hear from a living thing. When i listen to trance music i cannot imagine anyone actually making the thing that i hear.
i hear no agression, anger or negative feelings on the whole in this kind of music and on the other side there seems to be no real positive feelings ,it seems to be aiming to create a kind of mindless euphoria in the listener, at the end of the day i think the majority of trance is like the world add people would like us to believe we live in and is ultimatly empty of substance and uses cliches, production technology and complexity to compensate for this lack of content.
i have heard a few trance tracks i like but on the whole thats what the music makes me think when i hear it, sorry...
well i think he's putting it too generally... personally i haven't heard any music genre better to me than trance. but if someone generalises trance like that i think that person could be a bit arrogant to say so
there are ALOT of people that like trance and do feel touched by it and tell emotions coming from it. see such is life by Rank 1, which was played at a funeral so ive heard one time. Then the sound of goodbye by armin's perpetuous dreamer gives away alot of emotion as well : powerful vocals, somewhat tragic & dramatic and a good lead that goes by it.
but then there are alot of other people who don't like trance at all, but like metal, rock, rap, r&b or other sorts of music. i do like other sorts of music, i listen to rock & pop alot every now and then. but in my area, and i think it's somewhat typical for the belgian alternative community; there is alot of rescentment towards trance... people that are into other genres immediately place it as BAD/RUBBISH/'NOISE', while metal isn't short of just 'noise' either. sometimes i'm starting to think they're afraid... afraid that trance will eventually make up for whole the music scene since it's still growing and growing WORD!
but then again... i'd really love some mutual respect towards all kinds of music, especially from those people since i have nothing against the other sorts of music. where would it lead us elsewhere?
well, that's my opinion about it, i've made some topics about this before, but it's true... sadly enough
take care!
LW
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hmm .. not sure why he thinks music should be aggressive and what not ... thats one reason trance is so appealing. all that ego and shit is basically left at the door, people coming to appreciate good music.
unless of course they consider sandstorm or the whistle song to be trance
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May-28-2002 14:01
Icone
In Dreams...
Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Leuven, Belgium
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Originally posted by webmeister
unless of course they consider sandstorm or the whistle song to be trance
problem is that alotof people are getting to hear these 'trance' songs first and make their opinion about trance music that way... so they'll never appreciate 'true' trance music
hehe... what a hard world it is all i want is some mutual respect towards all genres... i don't think trance people have that problem, i've never met one who was arrogant about trance music towards other genres... it's just that, well... you know
LW
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~70% of estonian "alternative" ppl HATE trance.. yes they literally hate it giving excused such as "only-ppl-who-take-lsd-or-E-could-listen-to-smthn-like-this" well at first when I listened to their "opinions" I was like
but now I really dont care what others think I just enjoy music what I like
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May-28-2002 15:22
Mr.Mystery
Static Guru
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa
Once again:
WHY do people care about opinions like that?
Originally posted by djthunderbird
dont worry abt others opinion too much m8
~70% of estonian "alternative" ppl HATE trance.. yes they literally hate it giving excused such as "only-ppl-who-take-lsd-or-E-could-listen-to-smthn-like-this" well at first when I listened to their "opinions" I was like
but now I really dont care what others think I just enjoy music what I like
yeah, i enjoy the music alot myself as well it's just not nice to hear when you wanna spin one at someone's home and people say like "turn off that noise" or start turning their eyes like "oh no, not that again"... really annoying
metal is just noise as well, we trancers don't understand it either, but if they wanna hear one, hey let them have it... it's just the other's opinion that way that bothers me
cheers!
LW
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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Once again:
WHY do people care about opinions like that?
well, if you live between those people, you do have to care... they determine when and where you can play the tunes sadly enough
they seemed to have got this "veto-right" when it' coming to playing tunes at someone's home when we do a homeparty...
tell me if you don't need to care that way
LW
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Trance's emotion is like "start...eeeeeeeeeeeeeemmmmmmmmmmmmmoooooooooottttttiiiiiiooooonnnnnn."
it flows, it has no boundries, it's PURE emotion. those who say it has no emotion is dumb, beautiful trance DOES.
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The father made fetuses with flesh licking ladies / While you and your mother were asleep in the trailer park / Thunderous sparks from the dark of the stadiums / The music and medicine you needed for comforting / So make all your fat, fleshy fingers fingers to moving / And pluck all your silly strings and / Bend all your notes for me and / Soft silly music is meaningful, magical / The movements were beautiful / All in your ovaries / All of them milking with green fleshy flowers / While powerful pistons were sugary sweet machines, / Smelling of semen all under the garden / Was all you were needing when you still believed in me.
May-28-2002 18:35
djthunderbird
welcometoESTonia
Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Estonia, Tallinn
well back in the old days (end of 70's for example) when rock music was HOT, then all kids wanted to become guitarist's & rock singer's....
nowadays when electronic music is popular, everybody wants to be a DJ
its normall progress of life I guess.. I wonder what will music become in, let's say 20 years... It will probably be just random noises
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May-28-2002 18:47
oDrori
howdy
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kibbutz Gaash, home of all the light in Holyland
Ws the problem? Dude said, and I quote: "The Trance that I hear (And it could well be untypical to the genre)..." so he actually never even said anything about the whole Trance. He's OK, he just doesn't see the point in Trance just like you wouldn't seeit in Latin and I won't in World Music... He said Trance lacks Dirt, yes it's true in a lot of cases and especially imagine that a ude that isn't very interested in Trance hears some Trance on the radio or anything... What would he hear? Ian Van Dahl? Probably... Lasgo? Definitely... Do these artists have any friggin' bit of dirt in their tracks? Crap no. Also Melodic/ Uplifting have no dirt ussually... So that's what he heard (Again, the whole post reffers to the Trance he heard!)
you're right about that... i also adore some of those old(er) rock tracks like "led zeppelin - stairway to heaven", "metallica - nothing else matters", "live - lightning crashes", "nirvana - smells like teen spirit", "the cranberries - zombie", "crash test dummies - mm mm", "soundgarden - black hole sun" and many others...
but if you take a look at groupies like Linkin Park, Papa Roach and all the other bunches of 'noise' rock music, you can see that there's so little thought in it... they go about yelling for three to four minutes and that's about it... and most of the time they say their 'honest' opinion about authorities blahblah... jeez times sure have changed
Live has some real good stuff though... and Novastar... and the latest by Eskobar & Heather Nova ar egetting my attention as well And let's not forget the almighty Within Temptation - Ice Queen...wow!
cheers mate
LW
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People who listen to rock and other genres listen to these 'trance' (rather dance) tracks first and that way they make up their opinion on trance music... and that's what i think is for shame... they really have that repulsion on the 'commerciality' of trance. like linkin park wouldn't be commercial
his opinion is ok, but i just wonder on what he has based himself... as well trance as dance can be not offensive, but does it really have to? i mean like linkin park shouting their throat out of their bodies won't exactly mean that 'this is music' right?
i want mutual respect from my mates dammit but there is no at the moment... pity
greetz
LW
PS: you still haven't told me about that remix of tragedy buddy
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READ : 'alternative' people's opinion in belgium towards trance music
