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derail
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Canberra, Australia
Shameless promotion - but offering production help...

Hello - this is more of a music producers promotion topic, I've posted my latest song on that forum.

On a production related topic, I'm quite keen to get some feedback on this song, so I'll provide a detailed analysis/ critique of people's songs, for the first ten people to provide me with useful feedback in my other thread.

Here's a link to the track:


Fabrik Europa - Dawn Flight


Please provide the feedback in the other thread if possible! Thanks for listening!

Fabian

Old Post Aug-29-2008 10:28  Australia
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Cetra³
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Adelaide

Umm,

Why are you posting in here?

You already have a thread in the other forum for this track, you don't need two.

Stop being an ass.

Anyways, here is my response to your track:

It's generic.

There is way too much reverb at the start. In fact throughout the whole track there is way too much reverb in the clap or whatever hits every 2 bars.

The key change at 1:55? Or whatever it is, Seriously you don't need to change the key of your song, it's going to screw up everyone who key matches.

Your melody sounds like something out of the neverending story, I was back there with fucking Atreyu and the child like empress.

The breakdown is far too long.

The kick is sloppy, in fact the percussion needs quite a bit of work, just sounds like someone threw pots and pans in the room where you were recording and your microphone just happened to pick them up.

Your synths are sloppy and the overall loudness of the track isn't constant. You need to master it and tighten up all your sounds. Some synths are too loud, others are too quiet.

Seriously, why do people post track reviews in here? There's a whole fucking forum for it, which you obviously know about since you posted 2 fucking threads i mean what the fucking mcfuck.

Old Post Aug-29-2008 13:01  Australia
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[Ocean]State
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Registered: May 2006
Location: New England

I agree with Cetra about the melody, the key change and the reverb.

I don't think the percussion is awful but it could be tweaked and tightened up.

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G-Con
aka Greg Nicot



Registered: Jun 2006
Location: England

quote:
Originally posted by Cetra³
Umm,

Why are you posting in here?

You already have a thread in the other forum for this track, you don't need two.

Stop being an ass.

Anyways, here is my response to your track:

It's generic.

There is way too much reverb at the start. In fact throughout the whole track there is way too much reverb in the clap or whatever hits every 2 bars.

The key change at 1:55? Or whatever it is, Seriously you don't need to change the key of your song, it's going to screw up everyone who key matches.

Your melody sounds like something out of the neverending story, I was back there with fucking Atreyu and the child like empress.

The breakdown is far too long.

The kick is sloppy, in fact the percussion needs quite a bit of work, just sounds like someone threw pots and pans in the room where you were recording and your microphone just happened to pick them up.

Your synths are sloppy and the overall loudness of the track isn't constant. You need to master it and tighten up all your sounds. Some synths are too loud, others are too quiet.

Seriously, why do people post track reviews in here? There's a whole fucking forum for it, which you obviously know about since you posted 2 fucking threads i mean what the fucking mcfuck.


So did you like it or not?

I must admit Derail, I was surprised you created this thread. It seemed unnecessary. All of us really want as much feedback as we can get when we've done a tune but we don't post it in the MP and PS sections and offer feedback to first 10 people. Seemed a little desperate to me. Just do what the rest of us do, post the 1 thread in MP section and give plenty of feedback to other tunes in there (whether or not they have given you any) and you should get plenty of feedback on yours.

Other than this thread, in general I've found you to be one of the most helpful people in this forum so please don't take the above paragraph the wrong way.


Anyway, in regards to the tune, I can't comment at all on the production itself as I've heard this on work laptop. I did find the melody far too cheesy for my taste, the neverending story comparison I did find to be quite fitting. This is personal taste though and there may well be others that love it. It is very generic as well but then so is a lot of trance out there


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Nicolas Oliver
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Registered: Jul 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by [Ocean]State
I agree with Cetra about the melody, the key change and the reverb.


quote:
Originally posted by G-Con
I did find the melody far too cheesy for my taste, the neverending story comparison I did find to be quite fitting.


Respectfully, I agree with both posts.

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3F05Q
is a horrible artist name



Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Seattle . . . . . Skill Level: Mediocre At Best Clothing: Sometimes
Re: Shameless promotion - but offering production help...

quote:
Originally posted by derail
On a production related topic, I'm quite keen to get some feedback on this song, so I'll provide a detailed analysis/ critique of people's songs, for the first ten people to provide me with useful feedback in my other thread.


That's what's SUPPOSED to happen in the producers promotion area. What YOU need to do, immediately after posting your own song in that part of the forum, is go and critique 10 tracks and throw in a link to the one you just posted asking for feedback at the end of the critique. Always worked for me. Sometimes you'll get regulars, and then you won't even need to ask, they'll critique yours first... but make sure you return the favor.

So... all I'm saying is YOU need to make the first step. I'm sure it'll pay off.

Oh.. and I'll be happy to critique it, but it wouldn't be fair to do so with the laptop I'm using right now. (Not impressed with Apple's laptop speakers. Hmm)

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Nicolas Oliver
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Registered: Jul 2006
Location:

quote:
Originally posted by 3F05Q
That's what's SUPPOSED to happen in the producers promotion area. What YOU need to do, immediately after posting your own song in that part of the forum, is go and critique 10 tracks and throw in a link to the one you just posted asking for feedback at the end of the critique. Always worked for me. Sometimes you'll get regulars, and then you won't even need to ask, they'll critique yours first... but make sure you return the favor.


Good to know! Thank you for the advice

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ponsshin
Trance free since 2007



Registered: May 2007
Location: London, UK

I don't mean to hijack this thread but I don't really understand the point in making music if it's gonna sound terribly overheard/generic.

Be original for god'sakes! Explore, do things, twiddle those knobs dammit!

Make it sound fresh, catchy not flat and innocent.

Spend time perfecting sounds, studying melodic progression using midi effects.

MAKE THAT SHIT WORK BRO'!!

I know someone who keeps sending me tunes to get feedback. He's always so excited like "this is such a huge track bla bla" and then I say "dude, I couldn't even listen to it entirely because I was sure it was gonna sound the same from beginning to end"


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MrJiveBoJingles
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.

Downloaded, but I have to take it home to listen to it (I am at the school library now). Will get back to you on it later.

I decided not to get Internet access at my new apartment, so now I use a portable hard drive to download stuff and take it back and forth.

The lack of Internet has really helped me spend more time on music.

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airwalker1
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this thread was entertaining and yet truthfull as they all shoud be. i agree with the rest of the gang as regards to your track,you can obviousley make a good tune or thoe this one was to cheesy for me.a great format to try is the cloke and dagger approch keep things intreasting ang keep them gussing.in the mean time keep on making tunes asthe qualtie of the track was good

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alanzo
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Boston, MA

The composition on that saw lead sounds like you ripped it right from Airbase - Requium

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNskeE2o3SE

In general, the composition on this track makes me want to kill myself. Or grow pigtails and frolic through a magical rainforest. I haven't decided which.


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adi_hanson
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Registered: Dec 2007
Location: Blackburn

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles


The lack of Internet has really helped me spend more time on music.


LOL , good idea

Bet your balls are filling up tho!


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