I recently got into some new soft-synths and since they fixed the performance issues with the 8-core Mac Pros I can get a full load of soft synths with x16 oversampling and x8 detuned unison ... and I have to say some of them sound better than the TI in some areas.

For example Predator sounds way batter with bass lines, and Toxic Biohazard and Morphine also sound outstanding. (not to mention the likes of Sculpture)

So I started to consider selling my virus and going with software ... kina sad, but then again, its going to free my finance a bit.

Anyone had a similar dilemma ?

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Originally posted by csfp I recently got into some new soft-synths and since they fixed the performance issues with the 8-core Mac Pros I can get a full load of soft synths with x16 oversampling and x8 detuned unison ... and I have to say some of them sound better than the TI in some areas. For example Predator sounds way batter with bass lines, and Toxic Biohazard and Morphine also sound outstanding. (not to mention the likes of Sculpture) So I started to consider selling my virus and going with software ... kina sad, but then again, its going to free my finance a bit. Anyone had a similar dilemma ?

Yep, just did the same thing myself. Ditched all my hardware and invested in new monitors and waiting on an Apogee Ensemble audio interface.

It seems more and more that digital hardware synths are going out the window for many people.

Analog hardware will probably have a place for at least a while, though.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Analog hardware will probably have a place for at least a while, though.

I'll agree with that statement, most of my better sounding software instruments are all emulations of vintage analog hardware. They all just seem to sound fantastic.

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Originally posted by Eric J I'll agree with that statement, most of my better sounding software instruments are all emulations of vintage analog hardware. They all just seem to sound fantastic.

I couldn't sell my virus either up until now. Each time you start playing it it freakin steals your heart. The arp alone makes you play for hours.

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i really love the filter envelopes of the virus. they are so snappy i haven't found another synth which gives this nice plucks with the same envelope slopes.

Im in the same boat as DeZmA.. the latest virus ti update with my 8core mac pro works great.. i've fallen in love with the TI again.

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Originally posted by Eric J I'll agree with that statement, most of my better sounding software instruments are all emulations of vintage analog hardware. They all just seem to sound fantastic.

well that's comparing apple with oranges. software emulations sound exactly the same like any other software synths. the fact that they are emulating doesn't make them better. real analog synths sound "totally" different than any software.

I've also downsized my hardware synth collection considerably over the past few years and added a lot more soft synths (way more than I need). Two years ago, I had 12 hardware synths in my rack, now I'm down to 5, but I haven't been without a Virus for many years and I doubt I'll get rid of my Polar for a looooong time (except possibly to upgrade to the next generation of Viruses). Some things just can't be replaced by software alone IMO.

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I have discovered the complete opposite but I guess this is largely in part to some of the amazing soundbanks I've recently purchased. The sounds my Ti is making lately, no software VSTi has ever been able to match. I couldn't live without my Ti anymore and I couldn't imagine writing music without it, let alone selling it!

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I like access music a lot. To be honest they're the best analog emulations I've heard in ages. Even Clavia don't come close to it in my opinion.

But their synths are way too expensive for my wallet. Especially when you know that manufacturing cost them 500$ or less, selling a Ti for 1700 is a rip-off.

Don't get me wrong here,I LOVE the Ti, but everything there is in a Virus is a bunch of chips, just like in any computer. That the filter chip is a very good one makes no doubt. That it is just plain emulation that costs 50$ doesn't make one either.


If you want to hear the difference, get a REAL ms20 from korg, or a REAL ARP2600, all with analog circuits. You will have the shock of your life then, because those saw and square waves coming from there are so dirty and beautiful at the same time, because they come out of transistors and not silicon chips or CPU's.

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Originally posted by Lolo I like access music a lot. To be honest they're the best analog emulations I've heard in ages. Even Clavia don't come close to it in my opinion. But their synths are way too expensive for my wallet. Especially when you know that manufacturing cost them 500$ or less, selling a Ti for 1700 is a rip-off. Don't get me wrong here,I LOVE the Ti, but everything there is in a Virus is a bunch of chips, just like in any computer. That the filter chip is a very good one makes no doubt. That it is just plain emulation that costs 50$ doesn't make one either. If you want to hear the difference, get a REAL ms20 from korg, or a REAL ARP2600, all with analog circuits. You will have the shock of your life then, because those saw and square waves coming from there are so dirty and beautiful at the same time, because they come out of transistors and not silicon chips or CPU's.

Do you think one of the reasons for the price is the continued maintenance and support that Access have to provide due to having Virus Control?

After all, since the Virus came out there have been several additions - granular oscillators, extra USB out, Atomizer etc

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