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Krypton
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CBC - Fifth Estate - The Lies That Led To War

This is a must watch for all the PDD regulars...


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pkcRAISTLIN
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yeah, feels a little cheap to be honest. i would recommend one of these

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...ows/truth/view/

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...hows/iraq/view/

and this one is particularly good, and really illustrates discord within the evil monolithic and all-powerful agencies (plus showing executive incompetence).

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/view/


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that is hardly "cheap" journalism. The Fifth Estate is an excellent investigative program that often criticises the Canadian government and points out problems in the real world. You should actually watch it.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
that is hardly "cheap" journalism. The Fifth Estate is an excellent investigative program that often criticises the Canadian government and points out problems in the real world. You should actually watch it.


what are you talking about? i watched the first half an hour, which is where my opinion came from. it felt overly dramatic and a little shallow tbh. i didnt like the reporter's delivery.


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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
what are you talking about? i watched the first half an hour, which is where my opinion came from. it felt overly dramatic and a little shallow tbh. i didnt like the reporter's delivery.


so you don't like the style of the show?

Hmm. Well that doesn't take away from the effectiveness of the delivery of the message of the show, which is that the leadup to the war in Iraq was founded on a bunch of fucking horseshit!


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so you don't like the style of the show?

Hmm. Well that doesn't take away from the effectiveness of the delivery of the message of the show, which is that the leadup to the war in Iraq was founded on a bunch of fucking horseshit!


compared to the 3 docos i linked, it felt amateurish in comparison. maybe im just a frontline slut


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quote:
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compared to the 3 docos i linked, it felt amateurish in comparison. maybe im just a frontline slut


I disagree. I think they're all good and that more Americans should watch docs like them.


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I disagree.


you've watched them then i take it?


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never understood why people focus on the Saudi Arabian connection and think it's some diabolical conspiracy that we didn't invade Saudi Arabia because 14 of the 9/11 hi-jackers were Saudi. the rest were from UAE, Egypt and one from Lebanon

the Saudis kicked Bin Laden out of the Kingdom and wanted nothing to do with him or his followers. they saw him as a threat and rightly so becuase Bin Laden saw the monarchy as blasphemous for letting a foriegn army occupy themselves near Mecca and Medina. this was common knowledge looooooonnngggg before 9/11.

that CBC video is very disingenuous about the terrorist countries of origin of all the assorted attacks prior to 9/11 very propagandist-like because it relies on the viewers ignorance about who these individual hi-jackers are/were and where they all came from. all the video says is that they were connected to Bin Laden and that Bin Laden was Saudi.

Ramzi Youseff, who orchestrated the '93 WTC bombing, was Kuwaiti. the mastermind of 9/11 and Youseff's uncle, Kahlid Sheik Mohamed, was also Kuwaiti and never spent any real time in Saudi Arabia.

the U.S.S. Cole bombers were mostly from Yemen funded by the Sudanese.

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This gets to the point much faster.




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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
compared to the 3 docos i linked, it felt amateurish in comparison. maybe im just a frontline slut


Frontline sets the bar in my opinion too.


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quote:
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what are you talking about? i watched the first half an hour, which is where my opinion came from. it felt overly dramatic and a little shallow tbh. i didnt like the reporter's delivery.


We are talking about an inherantly biased station that's broadcasting this to begin with - CBC is a 1 Billion dollar /yr taxpayer vorpal pit acting as Canada's last stand against American stations/culture in the name of, "Canadian Culture"...

/nobody watches Canadian programing anyways...

//CBC is a bloated, bureaucratic dinosaur that needs to go extinct...

///slashes FTW!!!


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