Could happen but a more massive undernet might just emerge to remedy the issue.

Whats the incentive for privately owned ISP's to do this?
The business model doesn't sound like a money cow to me...

On the other hand, we are probably going to see more and more internet restricions/regulations from various governments.
One example is EU (USSR 2.0),Marianne Mikko thinks the EU should registers bloggers.
http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2008/...registry_2.html
Standard regulation/destruction Politican stuff.

Here in Sweden a law was passed eariler this summer that gives the government power to spy on it's own citizens.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/0...n_wiretap_bill/

More fun stuff to come.

and here we are bitching how the Chinese and other nations are so restrict on the internet,seems like we are almost getting there too.

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Do you know anything, at all, about how the internet works? This kind of move is practically impossible, specially after the emergence of e-commerce and the web 2.0 - no sane head of state would even allow this restriction because of the obvious economic impact it would have. It would lead to the demise of modern e-commerce, which is too profitable to simply die like that, and they'd have to find a way to protect themselves from all hacking attempts that would follow.

I do have to agree, however, about one thing:

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People have noted that the authors of the video seem to be more concerned about getting people to subscribe to their You Tube account than fighting for net neutrality by prominently featuring an attractive woman who isn't shy about showing her cleavage.

That cleavage is pretty relevant to the interests of all readers

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Originally posted by Lira Do you know anything, at all, about how the internet works? This kind of move is practically impossible, specially after the emergence of e-commerce and the web 2.0 - no sane head of state would even allow this restriction because of the obvious economic impact it would have. It would lead to the demise of modern e-commerce, which is too profitable to simply die like that, and they'd have to find a way to protect themselves from all hacking attempts that would follow. I do have to agree, however, about one thing: That cleavage is pretty relevant to the interests of all readers

It's hardly impossible and they've been trying to regulate it for quite sometime now.

What it boils down to is that the major corporations want to be the exclusive content providers so that they can charge everyone more for it but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it also has something to do with quelling political dissent online (see the last video for that.)

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Originally posted by Lira Do you know anything, at all, about how the internet works? This kind of move is practically impossible, specially after the emergence of e-commerce and the web 2.0 - no sane head of state would even allow this restriction because of the obvious economic impact it would have. It would lead to the demise of modern e-commerce, which is too profitable to simply die like that, and they'd have to find a way to protect themselves from all hacking attempts that would follow.

Hahaha. I think you need to do a bit more research in to network protocols, packet switching, routing, and ISPs. E-commerce will not "die" and in most likely not be affected at all with the exclusion of net neutrality. As a Computer Science major, I completely cracked up at your post, displaying a very minimal to non-existent understanding of computer networking . There are countless ways to control traffic .

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ah, this one again. *If* this were to happen, what would prevent another company from coming along and providing the same service we had had before, effectively driving all the restricting companies out of business? Government regulation? Ha - I think people would suddenly find themselves voted out of office.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo ah, this one again. *If* this were to happen, what would prevent another company from coming along and providing the same service we had had before, effectively driving all the restricting companies out of business? Government regulation? Ha - I think people would suddenly find themselves voted out of office.

Yeah, just like civil liberties and rolling back authoritarian legislation are a big concern for voters today right? LOL, dream on. People don't really seem to have much of a problem with the erosion of democratic institutions and values. They seem to be more than satisfied and pacified being corporate whores. What exactly are you going to do? Protest?!?! Sure, you'll accomplish a whole lot... like getting pepper sprayed, tased, or arrested. Although there are probably many other coercive modes the state may employ.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo ah, this one again. *If* this were to happen, what would prevent another company from coming along and providing the same service we had had before, effectively driving all the restricting companies out of business? Government regulation? Ha - I think people would suddenly find themselves voted out of office.

Considering that Comcast already engages in traffic management under the guise of relieving network congestion, I would hope that other companies would at least try but they would most likely be charged a hefty premium to use the proposed infrastructure. It's hard to say, though, because it might be extremely difficult for a startup to take on major corporations like Comcast and Verizon.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Yeah, just like civil liberties and rolling back authoritarian legislation are a big concern for voters today right? LOL, dream on. People don't really seem to have much of a problem with the erosion of democratic institutions and values. They seem to be more than satisfied and pacified being corporate whores.

how is that situation even remotely comparable? people (on the whole) dont give a shit about politics.

but, go and try to take their internet away. good luck!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN how is that situation even remotely comparable? people (on the whole) dont give a shit about politics. but, go and try to take their internet away. good luck!

Don't worry, even in the absence of net neutrality, they will have plentiful access to porn and online gaming. Content like that will now be censored out.

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