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djms
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sub bass

DO you guys make sub bass that is totally inaudible but just a low tone that works with the drum?

I usually make bass thats audible but would like to try and get phatter bottom end


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I never make sub bass, i just take it becomes a part of the bass.


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All depends on the track Mark, if it needs it add it for sure


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Vortex_SA
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i dunno man i usually high pass the track at 20hz-40hz leaving only audible bass... i think that any inaudible element in a track is a waste of precious headroom...


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sterilis
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i always have a sub bass. a nice sub gives the track a powerful drive


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lenieNt Force
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quote:
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i always have a sub bass. a nice sub gives the track a powerful drive

But why is then that people tell you to cut out the rumble below around 40 Hz? Where is the sub-bass ur talking about located in the freq spectrum?

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sterilis
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different stroke for different folks. i high pass everything at 20 hz. my sub sits in the 25 - 125 hz range then my other layers for my bass fill the rest of the low end up.


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lenieNt Force
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different stroke for different folks. i high pass everything at 20 hz. my sub sits in the 25 - 125 hz range then my other layers for my bass fill the rest of the low end up.

But isn't sub-bass characterized by that its subsonic and in-audiable? The human ear can hear frequencies all the way down to 20Hz as far as I know.. So if your sub sits in the 25 - 125 range, it isn't actually sub-bass is it?

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Vortex_SA
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quote:
Originally posted by lenieNt Force
But isn't sub-bass characterized by that its subsonic and in-audiable? The human ear can hear frequencies all the way down to 20Hz as far as I know.. So if your sub sits in the 25 - 125 range, it isn't actually sub-bass is it?


i think that sub-bass in music reffers to below your bass and not actually an in-audible sub bass... i guess if your bass runs at aprox 80 hz. base freq. you can add a sub bass in 40 hz. aprox... if i lack bass i make another bassline one octave below and run it on a LP filter of lets say 100hz and cut the first bass at 80hz and run them thru a compressor... that gives me an extra mile there... but again it really depends on various parameters...

but i think adding an inaudible sound isn't worth your while really...


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sterilis
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sub bass can be audible. totally inaudible sounds are infrasound which are pointless in a track. sub bass is audible but more or less has no harmonics.


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Stef
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quote:
Originally posted by lenieNt Force
But isn't sub-bass characterized by that its subsonic and in-audiable? The human ear can hear frequencies all the way down to 20Hz as far as I know.. So if your sub sits in the 25 - 125 range, it isn't actually sub-bass is it?


You are taking it too literally, sub-bass has come to define a super low oscillation that chugs the mix along, not so much an inaudible frequency .


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lenieNt Force
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Aight... This is actually what I've been thinking all the time, but lately I've just thought to myself after reading some article or something (can't remember exactly).. "hmm, so sub actually refers to sub-sonic, which means in-audible? so sub bass has to be in-audible then..?"

Incorrect assumption I guess..

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