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woscar
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala
Search Function

Well, the search function is kinda shit...maybe you oughta get it powered by Google or something. Also, this other forums where I post at have very decent search functions. Knn, who is the Admin is a nice guy and I guess he'll have no problem helping you guys out.

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www.in-my-opinion.org

And it has been broken for pretty much all day long today...


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Sunsnail
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Registered: Sep 2004
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lol those forums you posted have what... a few thousand posts? you realize TA has MILLIONS of posts right?

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Boomer187
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Registered: Aug 2001
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you can search google to find ta posts. just search whatever you want and add in tranceaddict at the end.

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RJT
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Yes, it's well established that TA's search function is absolute shit - It's easily the worst search engine I have ever used, and rarely functions for any good.

Case in point: I just spent 5 minutes trying to search for "Kosmas" in the title of posts made over the last 3 months, year, 2005, etc. No results, ever.

There's a thread less than a week old with Kosmas Epsilon in the title in CD Review NR Discussion. Clearly something is fucked.

Edit: Heh, the word "Kosmas" seems to return no results no matter what the search criteria are...

How in gods name can it be this hard to make a search engine work????


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Salegon
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Registered: May 2005
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I sometimes get the "the word you're looking for is less than 4 letters"-message although the expression I'm looking for has got 6 letters or more.......


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Swamper
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Registered: Jan 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RJT
Case in point: I just spent 5 minutes trying to search for "Kosmas" in the title of posts made over the last 3 months, year, 2005, etc. No results, ever.


Search for items including these words: kosmas
Search Options:Search Titles Only
Search for posts from: 2005 only

= Result



If do another search for the past 2 weeks you'll see the other thread you mentioned.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RJT
Yes, it's well established that TA's search function is absolute shit - It's easily the worst search engine I have ever used, and rarely functions for any good.


Strong words there. Well established? How exactly? The search on TA outperforms any vbulletin installation out there with this many posts - however, it's important to note that search scalability has long been an issue with vB and admins of larger forums either archive posts after a year or limit searches only to registered users (due to the massive load (I/O heavy) a search requires). TA Search is custom - you will be very hard pressed to find a 'Search all posts by user' or 'search within this thread' that is as fast on another vb forum with over 6 million posts.

The search is actually very powerful - it is a boolean search - and you have tons of options - searching by 'exact phrase',excluding posts if certain words are in the body/title - 'optionally containing these words' meaning to add a certain weighting to search results so posts/threads containing those words are given a higher rank when the query goes through.

I'll cut/paste some examples from the mysql page of what boolean search can do - ignore the + and - below since the boxes on TA search automatically put these in after you submit your search


* '+apple +juice'
Find rows that contain both words.

* '+apple macintosh'
Find rows that contain the word “apple”, but rank rows higher if they also contain “macintosh”.

* '+apple -macintosh'
Find rows that contain the word “apple” but not “macintosh”.

* '+apple ~macintosh'
Find rows that contain the word “apple”, but if the row also contains the word “macintosh”, rate it lower than if row does not. This is “softer” than a search for '+apple -macintosh', for which the presence of “macintosh” causes the row not to be returned at all.

* 'apple*'

Find rows that contain words such as “apple”, “apples”, “applesauce”, or “applet”.

* '"some words"'

Find rows that contain the exact phrase “some words” (for example, rows that contain “some words of wisdom” but not “some noise words”).


quote:
Originally posted by DJ RJT
There's a thread less than a week old with Kosmas Epsilon in the title in CD Review NR Discussion. Clearly something is fucked.


Yes, it is. Searches relative to the current date appear to have broke yesterday - I blame the auto-update of perl which messed up the mysql library which in turn broke the nightly creation of the search databases for (1 week/2 weeks/1 month/3 months/6 months/a year ago)
quote:
install_driver(mysql) failed: Can't load '/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/DBD/mysql/mysql.so' for module DBD::mysql: libmysqlclient.so.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/DynaLoader.pm line 229.
at (eval 2) line 3
Compilation failed in require at (eval 2) line 3.
Perhaps a required shared library or dll isn't installed where expected
at /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqlhotcopy line 178


I just fixed it now - all is back to normal.

quote:
Originally posted by Salegon
I sometimes get the "the word you're looking for is less than 4 letters"-message although the expression I'm looking for has got 6 letters or more.......


Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

** Note: Minimum search word length = 4 letters **


I guess that could be worded better - but - the 'Note' is there as a reminder that words under 4 letters in length will not come up in searches - it is simply too intensive to have search enabled for words that small.


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Marc Summers
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: New York, USA

swamper, I love your search function

People seem to forget that you've put time out of your day to create the search, and maintain it. And when one says "The search is blah blah blah", they are crapping on your heart, man! Don't take that!

I know you try hard!


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Salegon
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Registered: May 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Swamper

Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

** Note: Minimum search word length = 4 letters **


I guess that could be worded better - but - the 'Note' is there as a reminder that words under 4 letters in length will not come up in searches - it is simply too intensive to have search enabled for words that small.


well, yes I know but the thing is this message also occasionally(In my case very often) appears when searching for 5+ -letter words...


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Swamper
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Registered: Jan 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Salegon
well, yes I know but the thing is this message also occasionally(In my case very often) appears when searching for 5+ -letter words...


You will always have it appear if your search turns up no results.

This is the primary message:
Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

This is the appendum meant as a reminder:
** Note: Minimum search word length = 4 letters **

It seems I should just remove the last line because people are confused by it.


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StanVoid
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: NYC, New York

swamp, you rock.



lol @ "how hard can it be to make a search function"

unappreciation at its finest


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Swamper
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Registered: Jan 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
[b]Originally posted by StanVoid
lol @ "how hard can it be to make a search function"

unappreciation at its finest


I'm currently working on the vbulletin 3 upgrade and search is being a big pain in the ass.... If I can have it as functional as the way it is now and have it be just as fast I'll be very happy.. The 'straight out of the box' search that comes with it is slow - which is why it's almost a necessity to separate things into dates/years so you are searching a smaller pool of posts.


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stevieboy32808
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: United States

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
I'm currently working on the vbulletin 3 upgrade and search is being a big pain in the ass.... If I can have it as functional as the way it is now and have it be just as fast I'll be very happy.. The 'straight out of the box' search that comes with it is slow - which is why it's almost a necessity to separate things into dates/years so you are searching a smaller pool of posts.

I don't know anything about forum building so forgive my ignorance, but can't you copy the code which makes up the current search engine and paste it into the new version or something along those lines.

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