I was actually going to just post about this.

To Deadmau5' defense, what Armin is playing isn't trance. I know Armin is trying to hold onto the trance genre as hard as he can, even saying 'trance' is up to interpretation and how the sound has evolved, yadda yadda.

No, trance is still trance.

Armin has evolved from a trance DJ to a DJ that places other genres. It's not the trance genre that's evolved, but the DJ that has actually evolved.

I think people are taking this way to seriously. Looks like he (Deadmau5) is just playing around. I actually like Deadmau5's dickish attitude these days and I agree with him. A lot of current trance is anything but trance. By and large, if it has a drop, it's not trance. And all those shitty builds. Ugh. ASOT is A State Of Trouse. Not saying Armin or any of the other festival "trance" headliners don't know how to play good trance, they just aren't. Yes, they will bust out a GIA set once in a while to shut up the complainers but what about the rest of the time. You want to see what real trance is, check out the Luminosity lineup. That is trance with maybe the exception of Andy Moor. This is all strictly in my old world fart's opinion.

I think it's all funny, but in the end if he's going to talk-the-talk...then he should walk-the-walk. If he knows what Trance is...and wants to call other people out, whether jokingly or not, he should be ready to prove he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by DaveT I think it's all funny, but in the end if he's going to talk-the-talk...then he should walk-the-walk. If he knows what Trance is...and wants to call other people out, whether jokingly or not, he should be ready to prove he knows what he's talking about.

So by the same terms, I should be able to produce or DJ a trance set because I say what Armin is playing isn't trance?

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Originally posted by GPC So by the same terms, I should be able to produce or DJ a trance set because I say what Armin is playing isn't trance?

the funny thing is, i've seen armin reply to people that tweet that to him, and he says, and you decide what trance is because?

that's armins issue, he thinks 'trance' music can be interpreted into other genres.

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Originally posted by modthispny the funny thing is, i've seen armin reply to people that tweet that to him, and he says, and you decide what trance is because? that's armins issue, he thinks 'trance' music can be interpreted into other genres.

Ha ha yeah, I've seen that too. And by other DJ's as well. Gareth Emery comes to mind. So I guess we should just be saying they are playing shit because how could they argue with that? Both ways of saying it are obviously our opinion but he seems to be ignorant to that fact.

But the crowds at festivals love it so who are we to say anything Guess what, the crowds love Paris Hilton too. Doesn't mean shit. They are there to party and party they will!

two non-relevant DJs walk into a bar...

(they're both just looking for publicity, IMO, which threads like this and the article linked in OP is giving them)

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Originally posted by jonmitz two non-relevant DJs walk into a bar... (they're both just looking for publicity, IMO, which threads like this and the article linked in OP is giving them)

i think as far as mainstream popularity, AVB and Deadmau5 are still quite relevant.

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Originally posted by GPC Ha ha yeah, I've seen that too. And by other DJ's as well. Gareth Emery comes to mind. So I guess we should just be saying they are playing shit because how could they argue with that? Both ways of saying it are obviously our opinion but he seems to be ignorant to that fact. But the crowds at festivals love it so who are we to say anything Guess what, the crowds love Paris Hilton too. Doesn't mean shit. They are there to party and party they will!

yep, Paris hilton can DJ and the crowd will go crazy for her.

the issue is also, DJs use the crowds reaction as positive-reinforcement, so they think, 100k people are going crazy at what i'm playing, so i must be doing something right, and they continue to play this crap, even though it's absolute garbage.

I'll ALWAYS respect Markus Schulz, but more and more he's sounding a lot like W&W with the buildups and 'rave anthems', like the following.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9I_2sDIAAc

recently i've been listening to AVB's ASOT 650 warm-up sets, i know, ironic, and old 2004-2006 AVB and Markus Sets...i've just recently discovered these so have some time to enjoy them.

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Originally posted by modthispny i think as far as mainstream popularity, AVB and Deadmau5 are still quite relevant.

as far as I'm concerned, they are completely irrelevant to the state of electronic music. i could care less if they are relevant to the scene, the population in general is stupid when it comes to music (guess I should be careful what i say here...) and will take whatever you spoon feed them.

neither of them is contributing anything unique, or even interesting, anymore. (psst... deadmau5 never was lol)

e: and i regret posting this. oh well! #internet

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Originally posted by jonmitz as far as I'm concerned, they are completely irrelevant to the state of electronic music. i could care less if they are relevant to the scene, the population in general is stupid when it comes to music (guess I should be careful what i say here...) and will take whatever you spoon feed them. neither of them is contributing anything unique, or even interesting, anymore. (psst... deadmau5 never was lol) e: and i regret posting this. oh well! #internet

ohhh, 100%.

when i mean relevant, i mean to the scene.