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Capitalizt
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A Glimpse Into The Psyche Of McCain/Palin Supporters

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Old Post Oct-10-2008 11:44  United States
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Wow fucking assholes.


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Old Post Oct-10-2008 13:44  United States
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Damnit you beat me to the thread.

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Panic attacks: Voters unload at GOP rallies

A McCain supporter yells at Obama supporters before McCain and Palin arrive at a rally, Oct. 8, 2008, in Strongsville, Ohio.
Photo: AP

The unmistakable momentum behind Barack Obama's campaign, combined with worry that John McCain is not doing enough to stop it, is ratcheting up fears and frustrations among conservatives.

And nowhere is this emotion on plainer display than at Republican rallies, where voters this week have shouted out insults at the mention of Obama, pleaded with McCain to get more aggressive with the Democrat and generally demonstrated the sort of visceral anger and unease that reflects a party on the precipice of panic.

The calendar is closing and the polls, at least right now, are not.

With McCain passing up the opportunity to level any tough personal shots in his first two debates and the very real prospect of an Obama presidency setting in, the sort of hard-core partisan activists who turn out for campaign events are venting in unusually personal terms.

"Terrorist!” one man screamed Monday at a New Mexico rally after McCain voiced the campaign’s new rhetorical staple aimed at raising doubts about the Illinois senator: “Who is the real Barack Obama?”

"He's a damn liar!” yelled a woman Wednesday in Pennsylvania. "Get him. He's bad for our country."

At both stops, there were cries of, “Nobama,” picking up on a phrase that has appeared on yard signs, t-shirts and bumper stickers.

And Thursday, at a campaign town hall in Wisconsin, one Republican brought the crowd to their feet when he used his turn at the microphone to offer a soliloquy so impassioned it made the network news and earned extended play on Rush Limbaugh’s program.

“I’m mad, I’m really mad!” the voter bellowed. “And what’s going to surprise ya, is it’s not the economy – it’s the socialists taking over our country.”

After the crowd settled down he was back at it. “When you have an Obama, Pelosi and the rest of the hooligans up there gonna run this country, we gotta have our head examined!”

Such contempt for Democrats is, of course, nothing new from conservative activists. But in 2000 and 2004, the Republican rank-and-file was more apt to ridicule Gore as a stiff fabulist or Kerry as an effete weathervane of a politician.

“Flip-flop, flip-flop,” went the cry at Republican rallies four years ago, often with footwear to match the chant.

Now, though, the emotion on display is unadulterated anger rather than mocking.

Activists outside rallies openly talk about Obama as a terrorist, citing his name and purported ties to Islam in the fashion of the viral emails that have rocketed around the Internet for over a year now.

Some of this activity is finding its way into the events, too.

On Thursday, as one man in the audience asked a question about Obama’s associations, the crowd erupted in name-calling.

"Obama Osama!" one woman called out.

And twice this week, local officials have warmed up the crowd by railing against “Barack Hussein Obama.”

Both times, McCain’s campaign has issued statements disavowing the use of the Democrat’s full name.
A McCain aide said they tell individuals speaking before every event not to do so. “Sometimes people just do what they want,” explained the aide.

The raw emotions worry some in the party who believe the broader swath of swing voters are far more focused on their dwindling retirement accounts than on Obama’s background and associations and will be turned off by footage of the McCain events.

John Weaver, McCain’s former top strategist, said top Republicans have a responsibility to temper this behavior.

“People need to understand, for moral reasons and the protection of our civil society, the differences with Senator Obama are ideological, based on clear differences on policy and a lack of experience compared to Senator McCain,” Weaver said. “And from a purely practical political vantage point, please find me a swing voter, an undecided independent, or a torn female voter that finds an angry mob mentality attractive.”

“Senator Obama is a classic liberal with an outdated economic agenda. We should take that agenda on in a robust manner. As a party we should not and must not stand by as the small amount of haters in our society question whether he is as American as the rest of us. Shame on them and shame on us if we allow this to take hold.”

But, if it were up to them, such hard-edged tactics are clearly what many in the party base would like to use against Obama.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14445.html


haha yesss, squirm, I feast on your tears.

I'm actually a little worried about this... They seem like they'd do anything to prevent Obama from becoming President.

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Lebezniatnikov
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Those videos are terrifying.


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George Smiley
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Fuckin hell they don't like us Europeans do they?! The BBC showed similar clips the other day with McCain's mentalist supporters screaming at nothing really in particular. One guy said Obama will please the Europeans as he turns the country into socialist!

If Obama were elected in a European country he'd probably be considered as right wing as Berlusconi!!

It is scary tho that half of the American population (that vote anyway) seem to be made up of these rightwing lunatics, don't even wanna think about what they'll be getting upto once Obama has actually won!

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Originally posted by George Smiley

It is scary tho that half of the American population (that vote anyway) seem to be made up of these rightwing lunatics, don't even wanna think about what they'll be getting upto once Obama has actually won!


The sad thing is I am pretty damn sure most of us here (americans) know people like this or worst yet, have family like this. I have cut off communication with a brother and several cousins over this election. The racist and fear mongering that the GOP base is heading to is quite scary...

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Moral Hazard
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To be fair... if one were to go to an Obama rally and ask a bunch of supporters similarly crafted questions on video and then edit it down to just the most outlandish of the respondents you could put together clips of equally idiotic sounding people.


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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
To be fair... if one were to go to an Obama rally and ask a bunch of supporters similarly crafted questions on video and then edit it down to just the most outlandish of the respondents you could put together clips of equally idiotic sounding people.


Maybe, and I would like to see it, but I haven't seen a large mass of Obama supporters spouting off straight hate in such a vulgar fashion.


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Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by Zild
Maybe, and I would like to see it, but I haven't seen a large mass of Obama supporters spouting off straight hate in such a vulgar fashion.


Neither have I; however, human nature as it is, it's pretty safe to assume there are idiots on both sides who don't really know what their talking about yet insist on talking just the same. I'm also sure you'd be able to find an equally reprehensible level of vulgarity and hate.

***note, I'm not a supporter of McCain, I just think these sorts of tactics are intellectually dishonest and underhanded.


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I don't support either of the candidates. I can clearly see that these people are using hate maybe out of desperation, but probably because they are racist bigots.


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Moral Hazard
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quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I don't support either of the candidates. I can clearly see that these people are using hate maybe out of desperation, but probably because they are racist bigots.


I agree with you.


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lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

Old Post Oct-10-2008 14:37  Canada
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Lebezniatnikov
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quote:
From the Journal ...

Some McCain campaign officials are becoming concerned about the hostility that attacks against Sen. Obama are whipping up among Republican supporters. During an internal conference call Thursday, campaign officials discussed how the tenor of the crowds has turned on the media and on Sen. Obama.
Borderline criminal incitement will do that. But hey, whatever it takes.

Late Update: Joe Klein is getting concerned too.

(ed.note: This is not a laughing matter. So I want to be clear what I was alluding to when I referred to "borderline criminal incitement." John McCain has a first amendment right to smear and (at least free of criminal penalties) slander Barack Obama by suggesting he's in league with terrorists. But as we've seen many times, even offhandedly threatening comments directed at a Secret Service protected individual, can earn you a visit from the guys with the earpieces. And McCain and Palin are now routinely holding rallies in which they whip supporters into such a delirium by castigating Obama as a dangerous terrorist-lover that members of the audience shout what can very reasonably be interpreted as threats against Obama's safety. Am I saying they're breaking the law? No. But I do think they're nudging up against the envelope and getting near that line beyond which, if McCain were not a presidential candidate, his rallies would be getting some attention from those charged with protecting Obama's safety.)


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/223346.php


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