So i've been using reason for a few years now...i've gotten pretty comfortable and thats kinda why i havn't switched.

but every time i make a song and i try to push it to it's limits, the songs just start getting messy, and i have no control over it.

are there any actual ways to keep everything from sounding distorted and bleeding into other synths? or should i just give up and switch to real software?

here's an example of it turning messy

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Not sure what you mean, but the 14:2 mixer muddies things up a lot once you add in a few things.

You'll need to calculate the levels things are at, and increase/decrease the volume the things are at by whatever another way, and use the spider audio merger to merge the signals for the final source instead (don't forget you can daisy chain).

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Originally posted by BTG real software?

reason is a real software!

lower your volume and use compression/limiters on all instruments before the mixer. the mixer seems to work better with low inputs, then push up the volume again after the mixer with m-class intruments.

It's easy to blame the software. There is nothing keeping you from making a professional sounding mix in Reason but skill. Ever heard any Daniel Kandi track? Yeah, he uses Reason.

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter Not sure what you mean, but the 14:2 mixer muddies things up a lot once you add in a few things. You'll need to calculate the levels things are at, and increase/decrease the volume the things are at by whatever another way, and use the spider audio merger to merge the signals for the final source instead (don't forget you can daisy chain).

That is complete and utter bullshit. The mixer in Reason is perfectly transparent as you would expect a digital mixer to be (Assuming all EQs are turned off of course). If you'd have any experience with DSP programming you would know how ridiculous your claim is.

i cant help much bar the mix of robot thing needs a lot of work dude i can see why ur miffed. The kick is barely audible on my small stereo on very low on my sennheisers.

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Processing a highly structured and complex pattern of sensory input as a unified percept of "music" is probably one of the most elaborate features of the human brain.....understanding how music is perceived and how it may elicit intense sensations is far from being understood.

o what the fuck

Agreed reason is real, its not what you got but how you use it. Professionals use reason day in day and make great tracks that goes for any other piece of software, logic, cubase, renoise, ableton.

All I can advise mate is to study your track break it down to find out what is going wrong in the mix. If you have problems learn more about mixing, Eq - eventually you'll crack it.

Go to reasonstation.com and download songs from other artists there are some pro sounding tracks which you could learn from and see how they produce good results.

i listened to your sample too. it seems your samples are realy messy and unclear to start with, makes it all harder, pluss it soudns like nothing has been eqed. try finding some better drumsamples to start with, in lack of anything else ive used 909 and 808 samples ALOT!! (their nice tho)

i use the distortion pedal alot, but once i do i find it's really hard to control it....

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Originally posted by BTG every time i make a song and i try to push it to it's limits

Don't....

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Originally posted by BTG the songs just start getting messy, and i have no control over it.

And that's called the art of mixing, that it gets messy is totally up to you and not the software. There are a lot of tutorials in the Tutorial Masterlist that will help you get along with the mixing.

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Originally posted by BTG i use the distortion pedal alot, but once i do i find it's really hard to control it....

Distortion should be handled with care, it can create a mess (if not mixed properly). Also, refering to the first quote, if you are pushing a track to it's limit, it will probably go and clip on a certain point and when that happens, it's pretty likely that you'll get distortion.

Owyeah, and another cool tip. If you are fond of distortion, take a 909 kickdrum, throw a loadfull of distortion over it, and fill in the application form @ www.hardcoreaddict.com ..

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Last edited by Theran on Nov-19-2008 at 15:27

well it's not like i can't make a song that's clean sounding...

this is one of my earlier song, but it's hard to make a song thats 'pounding' in reason....


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i just wana know how to control the whole program like it's my bitch.

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Originally posted by BTG i just wana know how to control the whole program like it's my bitch.

Leash her, slap her in the face when she does something wrong and don't let her get out of the kitchen...

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