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pkcRAISTLIN
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evolution and the soul

no, this isn't another one of my religious-bashing threads.

i was merely curious: since evolution is irrefutable, and since many theists subscribe to evolution, at what stage did human(monkey)-kind evolve/receive a soul?

is it like completing a level of a computer game and being rewarded with a big gun? "hey now monkey, you've grown opposable thumbs! here, have a soul as recognition of your new place in the world"


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PETRAN
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Volos, Greece
Re: evolution and the soul

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
no, this isn't another one of my religious-bashing threads.

i was merely curious: since evolution is irrefutable, and since many theists subscribe to evolution, at what stage did human(monkey)-kind evolve/receive a soul?

is it like completing a level of a computer game and being rewarded with a big gun? "hey now monkey, you've grown opposable thumbs! here, have a soul as recognition of your new place in the world"




From a panpsychist view everything has "a soul" (whatever that means).


Or maybe the "soul"= high degree of self-awareness

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Sushipunk
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PKC, you're stoned again, aren't you?


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Arbiter
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Re: evolution and the soul

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
no, this isn't another one of my religious-bashing threads.


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Re: evolution and the soul

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
no, this isn't another one of my religious-bashing threads.

i was merely curious: since evolution is irrefutable, and since many theists subscribe to evolution, at what stage did human(monkey)-kind evolve/receive a soul?

is it like completing a level of a computer game and being rewarded with a big gun? "hey now monkey, you've grown opposable thumbs! here, have a soul as recognition of your new place in the world"


I'm going to say it appeared as humans evolved into cultural creatures. Firstly, because culture is what best defines humans as opposed to other animals (which supposedly don't have souls), and the state of soul after death is determined by right and wrong, which are cultural concepts.

Of course the soul is a bunch of bullshit so there's no point in trying to cram it within scientific theories where it doesn't belong. But if I were a crazy pseudo-scientist that's probably how I'd try to rationalize my dumb beliefs.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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PKC, you're stoned again, aren't you?


hahaha. i thought about you when i posted the thread, thinking "if sushi is around he's gonna accuse me of being stoned again!". nah man, im still at work, counting down the minutes. t minus 24.

haha, sorry to disappoint arbiter!


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Lira
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PKC, you're stoned again, aren't you?

I used to ask myself the same question, and I've never seen weed - not even once - in my whole life


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I used to ask myself the same question, and I've never seen weed in my whole life


what kind of vegetarian hippy philosopher has never tried weed!?

the kind that has no soul ill bet!!


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Lira
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what kind of vegetarian hippy philosopher has never tried weed!?

the kind that has no soul ill bet!!

Yeah, probably

Edit: I think it's even harder to believe that my mum is actually a die-hard Spiritualist, and her life revolves around spirits, souls and pyramids


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Frenchie
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Your mom likes Daft Punk?

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Sushipunk
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hahaha. i thought about you when i posted the thread, thinking "if sushi is around he's gonna accuse me of being stoned again!". nah man, im still at work, counting down the minutes. t minus 24.


So you saying you're gonna be stoned soon then?


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I think it's even harder to believe that my mum is actually a die-hard Spiritualist, and her life revolves around spirits, souls and pyramids


Sounds exactly like my mum.


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