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MarkT
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Registered: Sep 2003
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Future PM of Canada

well...maybe. Anytime I've read any of his articles, editorials, etc. I'm struck by his insight and intelligence. Here's someone who's a scholar and a journalist...not a businessman. Maybe the change needed to restore faith in the Liberal Party:

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Ignatieff coming home to U of T
Speculation on future swirls
Is scholar aiming for Liberal helm?


ANDREW MILLS
OTTAWA BUREAU

OTTAWA—Michael Ignatieff is coming home to Canada — leaving his post at Harvard University for a prestigious position at the University of Toronto, sources close to him say.

This news, to be announced by the university today, will undoubtedly fuel speculation the Canadian-born scholar plans to make a bid for the leadership of the federal Liberal party.

Ignatieff, 58, will become the Chancellor Jackman visiting professor in human rights policy and will also become a fellow at the university's Munk Centre for International Studies.

He and his wife have bought a condominium close to the university's downtown campus, according to a friend who wanted to remain anonymous.

They are expected to spend the bulk of this fall in Toronto as Ignatieff takes on duties at U of T and wraps up work as director of Harvard's Carr Centre for Human Rights Policy in Cambridge, Mass. Ignatieff will take up all his new duties in January.

"His intention is not to make his move back to Canada temporary," the friend said. "His intention is to make it permanent."

Suspicions have swirled through political circles in recent months that Ignatieff has the leadership of the Liberal party in his sights.

Many will see his return to Canada after nearly 30 years abroad as preparation to run for the leadership.

But Ignatieff has denied he has any such plans and his friends say his return to Canada isn't connected to his potential future career here.

"He's been talking about coming back to Canada for a long time," said the friend, who is a member of the Liberal party.

"I think that he is increasingly interested in the public and political debate in Canada, so I think all of these things have led him to make a decision that now is a good time. ... The issue for Michael Ignatieff will be how best for him to make a contribution to public and political debate. That will be a question he asks himself."

Nevertheless, the attractive and charismatic Ignatieff, who is the author of several books, has been quietly circulating in some Liberal circles since March, when he came to Ottawa to deliver the keynote address at the party's policy convention.

In May, according to party insiders, Ignatieff met with prominent Liberals in at least Quebec and Nova Scotia.

And a group of prominent Toronto Liberals — who once supported leadership hopeful John Manley — have surrounded Ignatieff. That group, which includes Toronto lawyer Alfred Apps, has encouraged him to become more involved in the party, which has no obvious heir apparent who will take over when Prime Minister Paul Martin steps down as leader.

Martin, who turns 67 on Sunday, will lead the Liberals into an election expected this winter.

Ignatieff is going to have to build his profile if he wants to succeed Martin. In a poll conducted by SES Research for the Toronto Star this week, only 4 per cent of Canadians said they see Ignatieff as the prime contender to replace Martin.

The poll showed Ignatieff falling behind Frank McKenna, Bob Rae and John Manley. Support for Ignatieff was tied with support for Martin Cauchon.

Nevertheless, Ignatieff's increasing activity in the Liberal party represents a homecoming of sorts for a man who volunteered on Pierre Trudeau's bid for the leadership in 1968 and worked in the election that year after Trudeau came to power.

Ignatieff's return to the University of Toronto is a homecoming as well; it's from that institution's Trinity College that he graduated in 1969. His father, diplomat George Ignatieff, served Trinity as provost in the 1970s, and the wider university as chancellor in the 1980s.

Michael Ignatieff went on to complete a PhD in history at Harvard and then a master's degree at Cambridge University. He has worked as a journalist for the BBC, The Observer, Time magazine and, most recently, The New York Times Magazine. And his career as an academic has taken him from the University of British Columbia to King's College at Cambridge University, to Harvard and now to the U of T.

The University of Toronto has been courting Ignatieff for several years, the friend said, and the decision to return is all Ignatieff's. "It's a world that's very familiar to him, to which he has a lot of strong and positive memories," the friend said.

But the move may come as a surprise because as recently as March, he told the Star's Graham Fraser that leaving Harvard just wasn't in his future.

"Simple things are true," Ignatieff said then. "I have the best job in the world, and I can't see any foreseeable circumstance where I want to change. And that's the hand-on-heart truth."

Whatever the case, his acceptance of U of T's offer is a huge success for the university, which, according to a university source, has had difficulty filling the Chancellor Jackman chairs.

They were created in 1998 after Henry Jackman, a former university chancellor and philanthropist, gave a $15 million endowment to attract internationally renowned scholars in the humanities to U of T.


source: Toronto Star - August 26, 2005

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That man is a genius

I reccomend they read the book the Lesser Evil. It's basically anything and everything you need to know on world terrorism with brilliant arguments from every perspective.


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God help us all if he was a Trudeau supporter...


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God help us all if he was a Trudeau supporter...


Hey now...Trudeau was a great leader and I believe we will see another Trudeau in power before the end of our life.


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Hey now...Trudeau was a great leader and I believe we will see another Trudeau in power before the end of our life.

Please God no. I know we're on our way to rock bottom but I'd prefer if we didn't hit it in my lifetime.


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ok ok...this is not a Trudeau-bashing thread!

I'd love to see someone with more of an academic slant get into office...he's a renowned professor, author, journalist, etc. Not just some dude out to make a buck or a name for himself. Refreshing, IMHO.

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DigiNut
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
he's a renowned professor, author, journalist, etc.

In other words, loony left.

Personally, I'd like to see someone with *practical* knowledge and experience elected!


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Disgusting article.

-There's no mention of what's best for CANADA, only what's best for the PARTY.

-The elites are seeking a coronation, not an election. This article is part of that process.

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quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
I'm struck by his insight and intelligence. Here's someone who's a scholar


quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
I'd love to see someone with more of an academic slant get into office...


Since when do you care about intelligence? Stephen Harper is widely accepted to be the most intelligent and scholarly politician since Trudeau (which is why the Lieberals want to destroy him so badly), and yet I don't see you waxing poetic about him.

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Maybe the change needed to restore faith in the Liberal Party


It would take a lot more than a new leader. The entire graft/patronage power structure in this country needs to be dismantled. Refounding the Lieberal Party would be a good start.

More ideas here:
http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h703.html

-He's not qualified to be Prime Minister of Canada. Minister for International Cooperation, maybe... but not PM.


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Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by ShadoWolf
Disgusting article.

-There's no mention of what's best for CANADA, only what's best for the PARTY.

-The elites are seeking a coronation, not an election. This article is part of that process.

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Since when do you care about intelligence? Stephen Harper is widely accepted to be the most intelligent and scholarly politician since Trudeau


By who? I don't see it. He's been an advisor, worked for a special interest group, then became a politition. He has no schollarly background. Having an MA does not make one "intelligent and scholarly." Man, you really believe all the propoganda the conservatives spew out don't you?


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quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
he's a renowned professor, author, journalist, etc.

In other words, loony left.

So you're admitting that in general, well-educated, intelligent people tend to lean towards the left? That should tell you something, no?


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Originally posted by ShadoWolf
More ideas here:
http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h703.html

so typical of conservatives. gets into a discussion about whether someone should/shouldn't be considered a decent candidate for Prime Minister of CANADA, and points to a website about AMERICAN history as a support to his arguments.


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MarkT
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^^^ lol...typical, indeed.

Shadowolf's criticism is just stupid...why would they talk about what's best for Canada when this individual has neither been publicly approached by the Liberal party nor publicly stated a desire to join and lead it as of yet...so writing about what's "best for Canada" is a wee bit premature, no?!?

but that's Shadowolf's usual M.O...that he calls this article "disgusting" simply indicates his anti-Liberal bias. If this was an article about some Green Party candidate (or any party other than the Liberals, for that matter), he'd be posting an entirely different opinion, lol

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