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HotDogWater
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Prop 8 backers at it again...

Sad, really

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/12/19/ca...tion/index.html

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Sponsors of the California ballot measure that banned same-sex marriage is seeking to nullify thousands of marriages performed between gay and lesbian couples.


The passge of Proposition 8 left the future of thousands of marriages between same-sex couples unclear.

Proposition 8, which passed 52.5 percent to 47.5 percent in November, overturned a May ruling by the California Supreme Court that struck down a 2000 ban on same-sex unions.

Local governments across the state have since suspended the practice of giving marriage licenses to same-sex couples, but it was unclear what would happen to couples who married after the Supreme Court's decision.

The sponsors have filed three lawsuits with the state Supreme Court seeking to nullify those marriages. In addition to seeking the nullifications, the sponsors also filed responses to lawsuits seeking to strike down the ballot initiative.

The briefs defend Proposition 8 against opponents' legal challenges, such as the argument that the amendment needs a constitutional convention to be added to the state's constitution.

"We are confident that the will of the voters and Proposition 8 will ultimately be upheld," said Andrew Pugno, general counsel for ProtectMarriage.com and the Proposition 8 Legal Defense Fund.

Several groups have petitioned the California Supreme Court to prevent the constitutional revision from taking effect.

The American Civil Liberties Union, Lambda Legal and the National Center for Lesbian Rights have filed a lawsuit contending the ballot initiative was "improperly used."

According to the three groups, "such radical changes" as outlawing same-sex marriage cannot be made by ballot initiative, but must, "at a minimum, go through the state Legislature first." The groups also argue the measure takes away a "fundamental right" from lesbian and gay Californians.

After the ballot initiative passed, Sunny Hostin, a CNN legal analyst, said it was unclear whether same-sex weddings that took place before Tuesday are still valid.

"I think they really are in a legal limbo, a legal black hole," she said, referring to those couples.

Proposition 8 supporters also announced the addition of Kenneth Starr to their legal team. Starr will serve as lead counsel and argue their case to the Supreme Court.

Starr, the dean of Pepperdine Law School, investigated the suicide of Clinton deputy White House counsel Vince Foster and the Whitewater affair. The $70 million investigation turned up evidence of President Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky and led to Clinton's impeachment by the House of Representatives. He was acquitted by the Senate.


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"Rick Jacobs, Courage Campaign" to chris soltis 11:37am
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"I'm opposed to redefinition of a 5,000 year definition of marriage. I'm opposed to having a brother and sister being together and calling that marriage. I'm opposed to an older guy marrying a child and calling that marriage. I'm opposed to one guy having multiple wives and calling that marriage." -- Rick Warren, Pastor of Saddleback Church, December 15, 2008


Dear chris,


Incest. Pedophilia. Polygamy.

When Pastor Rick Warren was asked to clarify this statement -- if he actually equates same-sex marriage with incest, pedophilia and polygamy -- his answer was direct and unequivocal: "Oh, I do."

That didn't stop President-elect Barack Obama from choosing Pastor Warren to give the invocation at his inauguration -- an appalling mistake that will forever tarnish our country's celebration of Obama's historic ascendance to the White House.

While President-elect Obama has chosen to ignore the troubling beliefs of the man who will spiritually usher in his presidency, Californians can not ignore Rick Warren and his Saddleback Church followers, based in Orange County.

We can not ignore Rick Warren's fervent support for Proposition 8 or his mobilization of thousands of evangelical Christians to enshrine discrimination into our state constitution.

Harvey Milk did not ignore John Briggs in 1978, when Briggs sought to pass Proposition 6 -- the infamous "Briggs Initiative" that attempted to ban gay and lesbian teachers, and anyone who supported them, from our California's public schools. Milk challenged Briggs to debates across the state.

And we're not going to ignore Rick Warren. That's why we're asking you to give Pastor Warren a new invitation -- a Courage Campaign invitation to a public debate on same-sex marriage with Reverend Eric Lee, President of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) of Greater Los Angeles.

It's time to challenge Rick Warren to an open, honest debate about same-sex marriage. Click here now to join us, by signing your name to our invitation to Rev. Warren to debate Rev. Eric Lee. On December 24, the Courage Campaign will deliver your signatures to Pastor Warren at the Saddleback Church in Orange County:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/RickWarrenDebate

You may not know Rev. Eric Lee. But you should.

Rev. Eric Lee is a courageous leader on marriage equality in the faith community and in the African American community. Representing the SCLC, founded by the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., Rev. Lee expressed his strong opposition to Prop 8 in October by taking a stand with the Courage Campaign against the Mormon Church's heavy involvement in the Prop 8 campaign.

Now, Rev. Lee is taking a stand again, challenging Pastor Warren to a debate about Prop 8 and same-sex marriage.

Rev. Eric Lee needs your support to challenge Rev. Rick Warren to debate Prop 8 and explain Warren's comparison of same-sex marriage to incest, pedophilia and polygamy. Please sign here -- and ask your friends to gather as many signatures as possible -- before December 24:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/RickWarrenDebate

Thank you for everything you are doing to restore marriage equality and push for progressive change in California.

Rick Jacobs
Chair

P.S. To repeal Prop 8, and change California forever, we need to change the conversation.

You can change the conversation by signing this invitation to Rick Warren and forwarding this message to your friends today. The more signatures we gather, the more likely Rick Warren's views on same-sex marriage will be challenged, this time by another man of faith. DEADLINE: DECEMBER 24:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/RickWarrenDebate

..............


Courage Campaign Issues is part of the Courage Campaign's online organizing network that empowers over 300,000 grassroots and netroots activists to push for progressive change in California.


To power our campaign to repeal Prop 8, please contribute today:



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Breaking: SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — California Attorney General Jerry Brown asks state Supreme Court to void gay marriage ban. http://tinyurl.com/4qeq3m

I blasted this on Twitter a few mins ago, but though I'd share here too

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