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Andryuha
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How to mix in tracks with an "irregular beat"?

I'm a newbie, so don't be too harsh.

How would mix in something like BT - Somnambulist (Burufunk mix) with a track that has a "normal" beat, such as PVD - For an Angel? It seems to me that the only way to do this would be to do a quick cut. That raises another question - how do I mix in the cued track?

Thanks in advance - feel free to correct my terminology.

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Jarvmeister
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If they're running at the right tempo it will sound OK.

Listen to The Politics Of Dancing, the mix that runs into Mirco De Govia - Epic Monolith, it's a breakbeat. Yet it still works.

Jarv

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RJT
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quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
If they're running at the right tempo it will sound OK.

Listen to The Politics Of Dancing, the mix that runs into Mirco De Govia - Epic Monolith, it's a breakbeat. Yet it still works.

Jarv


lol - the implication being that the majority of time you can't mix a break beat with a 4/4?


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Andryuha
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I guess I should avoid mixing such tracks until my beat-matching is perfected. Looks like this would be to hard at this point

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Zoso
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Don't feel bad. I've been mixing for just over a year, and if you handed me a crate full of breaks and said, "Here, tear it up, you skinny white punk," I'd be as lost as a ball in high weeds.

I've heard some nice trancey breaks that would be great to put in a set, but I honestly have no clue about the mechanics of beat matching breaks. I'm sure it's similar to anything else. Any links/pointers?

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RJT
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Breakbeats, for me, were a HUGE hurdle in my first year or so of mixing, but now I can't get enough of them (hell, my first production is a breaks tune!).

My advice is just to find the four count in the breakbeat - It's there, it just may be harder to pull out initially. Once you've got that, and are able to beatmatch the two, then it's simply a matter of switching the kick - I usually cut the kick to the outgoing tune 4 or 8 beats before the end of a phrase, and then slam the incoming kick in on the start of the next phrase.

Hope that sort of helps.


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Mr.Mystery
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Don't listen to the beat, listen to the clap/snare and other percs and it's just like mixing any other kind of music.


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Jarvmeister
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quote:
Originally posted by RJT
lol - the implication being that the majority of time you can't mix a break beat with a 4/4?



No - the implication that you can. It's in plain english. I didn't say it was out of the ordinary - I used it as an example.

The implication of which you speak is in the thread starters post!

Jarv

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RJT
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quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
No - the implication that you can. It's in plain english. I didn't say it was out of the ordinary - I used it as an example.

The implication of which you speak is in the thread starters post!

Jarv


Nope, it's right here:

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
it's a breakbeat. Yet it still works.




PS: I was just bustin' your balls dude


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Andryuha
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here's what I want to ultimately achieve. I know it's all one song, but listen to the part that starts at about 2:30 (that's cut out of KT's mix). [[ LINK REMOVED ]]


BTW, I would appreciate it if someone can ID this track - I'd love to use it in a mix.

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Clovis
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Don't listen to the beat, listen to the clap/snare and other percs and it's just like mixing any other kind of music.



How about listen to the track on a whole and go from there...



Going from Breaks to 4/4 and back is alot of fun. I like layering the two kicks abit so you get a kind of hybrid 4/4/breaks beat going...depends on the tracks though...


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Mr.Mystery
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quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
How about listen to the track on a whole and go from there...

Yes, but if even 2 different kicks confuse you how do you expect to make that work?


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