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atbell
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Israeli Motivations

Starting a new thread to get a different side of the discussion.

Why did Isreal really attack Gaza this time? In 2006 it was to get 3 soilders back, this time it seems to be officially because of the rocket attacks.

None of this seems logical.

Two issues that have not got much mention are the upcomming election and the presence of new rockets.

I tend to see think the Israli actions are due to the new rockets.

yes / no?

Old Post Dec-28-2008 23:36  Canada
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The17sss
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The motivation was rocket launches into their country after breaking a cease fire agreement... where's the difficulty in logic over this incident? Even Abbas and the Palestinians are blaming Hamas, buddy

"Abbas: Hamas Could Have Prevented 'Massacre'"

quote:
Hamas could have prevented the "massacre" in the Gaza Strip, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas said Sunday in Cairo.

"We spoke to them and told them 'Please, we ask you not to end the cease-fire. Let it continue,'" Abbas said during a joint press conference with Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit. "We want to protect the Gaza Strip. We don't want it to be destroyed."


One of the few sympathetic voices in the initial attack came from Egypt, which condemned Israel's actions in Gaza and opened its borders to assist the wounded. That didn't work out as planned, and Egypt sharply criticized Hamas in the same forum:

quote:
Aboul Gheit also attacked Hamas, saying the group had prevented people wounded in the Israeli offensive from passing into Egypt to receive medical attention.

"We are waiting for the wounded Palestinians to reach Egypt. They aren't being allowed to go through," he said.

Asked who was to blame for the dire situation in Gaza, the foreign minister replied: "Ask the party that controls Gaza."


Most tellingly, Egypt has a solution to the conflict, and it's not directed at Israel:

quote:
He added that the meeting of Arab foreign ministers meeting in Cairo Wednesday should call on Hamas to extend the truce.


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satell...icle%2FShowFull

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Q5echo
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motivation was that Hamas needed to humbled. same with Hezbollah 2006.

not sure if that warranted a new thread but whatever

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Q5echo
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quote:
Originally posted by ********
It seems like wanton killing rather than constructivism, it is akin to genocide, it'd make more sense just to nuke gaza and save people the time and effort.


some of the most ignorant crap i've read here in a while

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don't worry, nothing remotely productive comes from Q5echo, only biased comments.

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quote:
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don't worry, nothing remotely productive comes from Q5echo, only biased comments.


hate to break it to you but in this sub-forum, bias is prerequisite.

if you want a circle jerk, go back to the COR

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Q5echo
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quote:
Originally posted by ********
what am I missing, do enlighten.


motive, evidence and witnesses

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The17sss
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quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
hate to break it to you but in this sub-forum, bias is prerequisite.

if you want a circle jerk, go back to the COR


+1

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Lemonad
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So having a real opinion doesn't exist anymore? only blindly agreeing to other peoples opinions, may it be justifiably and morally wrong?

Too bad, you seem more suited to the COR then.

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Q5echo
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i'll make this real simple for you so you can understand.


quote:
Originally posted by Lemonad
So having a real opinion doesn't exist anymore?


a "real opinion" is no more than an opinion. it can't be any more true or less true than what it simply is.

quote:
only blindly agreeing to other peoples opinions, may it be justifiably and morally wrong?


THAT, my friend, is nothing more than an opinion. welcome to the PDD

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Krypton
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Location: Texas
Re: Israeli Motivations

quote:
Originally posted by atbell
Starting a new thread to get a different side of the discussion.

Why did Isreal really attack Gaza this time? In 2006 it was to get 3 soilders back, this time it seems to be officially because of the rocket attacks.

None of this seems logical.

Two issues that have not got much mention are the upcomming election and the presence of new rockets.

I tend to see think the Israli actions are due to the new rockets.

yes / no?


A better question is why Palestinians fire rockets. Hint...blockade.


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Q5echo
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Re: Re: Israeli Motivations

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
A better question is why Palestinians fire rockets. Hint...blockade.


you have it backwards as usual

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