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littlee1816
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Registered: Mar 2007
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plagirism... or is it?

i'm new to the whole dj'ing scene, and i was wondering...

If you're listening to a dj on a radio show/ live show/ whatever,
say you hear two songs that mix fantastically. Is it wrong to mix the same two songs in a row at a show/ in a set?


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djimmersion
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redundancy is very prominent in this industry

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Fledz
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Not at all. Why would it be? If it sounds fucking awesome, I would personally love to hear it in a club. You can't copyright "mixing".


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kpjf
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Quite the opposite! When you mix your aim is to get tunes that sound well together, to get a flow going. Of course you need progression etc in a set, but the idea when you're mixing is to try and mix tunes that mix well together. I mean what do you want? tunes that don't mix well together!?

I don't know why you say Plagiarism? Maybe you simply don't understand what this word means (?)...

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coolestrl
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Registered: Mar 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by kevferris
I don't know why you say Plagiarism? Maybe you simply don't understand what this word means (?)...


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Stu Cox
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quote:
Originally posted by kevferris
Quite the opposite! When you mix your aim is to get tunes that sound well together, to get a flow going. Of course you need progression etc in a set, but the idea when you're mixing is to try and mix tunes that mix well together. I mean what do you want? tunes that don't mix well together!?

I don't know why you say Plagiarism? Maybe you simply don't understand what this word means (?)...

I think you've missed that he's talking about copying a certain sequence of tunes that another DJ did...

e.g. if I saw Armin playing track X and mixing it into track Y, if I didn't think he was a complete pillock I might decide it sounded amazing, go and buy track X and track Y and try and mix them in the same way.

I think it's fine if it's not a particular trademark/signature mix of a particular DJ... but try not to let that guide your track selection too close to another DJ's just for the sake of a good mix


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Adam420
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Just a lack of originality


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Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.

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teufel-man
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quote:
Originally posted by kevferris
I don't know why you say Plagiarism? Maybe you simply don't understand what this word means (?)...


Can you explain what you mean by this?

As far as I know, plagiarism is when you use someone else's idea (i.e. mixing song X and song Y) and claiming it as your own.

Obviously if you just play it during a set at a club you aren't explicitly claiming to the crowd that this was your own original mix invention. However, if you were producing a mix CD and you did this I would consider that plagiarism, unless you included some sort of citation which gave credit to the original creator of the mix (LOL).

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Adam420
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No, plagiarism is using another's work and claiming at as your own.


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Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.

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Stu Cox
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No, plagiarism is using another's work and claiming at as your own.

Certainly in the academic world it extends to using someone else's idea as well... if you write a technical document and make a statement without saying what your source was, it can be construed as you claiming the idea as your own, which is usually considered as plagiarism.


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Trance Android
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Location: Birmingham, UK

Never copy a transition. In fact don't even play a track that another DJ has ever played. Ever.

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Darkarbiter
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Originally posted by Trance Android
Never copy a transition. In fact don't even play a track that another DJ has ever played. Ever.


I go even further, even if I just think theres a small chance someone somewhere who is a dj might have played that tune once in any location ever. So pretty much anything I think anyone else would like, I will not play as they might be a dj which would ruin the track. This is why I have begun spinning trance, there is absolutely no way anyone would like and therefore play this(unplagairised however) shit. Previously I was playing speedcore, but thats become too commercial.


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