Anybody else here have this synth? I bought it about a week ago and I'm hooked. This is one of the best all-around synths (hardware or software) that I've ever owned. HCM synthesis is very cool and this synth is laid out very nicely and intuitively. It's a breeze to program and, most importantly, the sound is incredible.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Anybody else here have this synth? I bought it about a week ago and I'm hooked. This is one of the best all-around synths (hardware or software) that I've ever owned. HCM synthesis is very cool and this synth is laid out very nicely and intuitively. It's a breeze to program and, most importantly, the sound is incredible.

I've been hearing a bit about this synth lately, will prob check it out after this thread.

How are the oscillators? Anything unique going on there with sound quality?

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Originally posted by cryophonik Anybody else here have this synth? I bought it about a week ago and I'm hooked. This is one of the best all-around synths (hardware or software) that I've ever owned. HCM synthesis is very cool and this synth is laid out very nicely and intuitively. It's a breeze to program and, most importantly, the sound is incredible.

Could you show me some of your sounds with it? I just dont really trust the mp3 demos lol.

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Well, the oscillators and the uniqueness of HCM (Harmonic Content Morphing) syntheses is really what gives this synth its character. It starts with hundreds of hi-quality oscillators/waveforms (no, it's not a rompler) and lets you combine the harmonic content in a multitude of ways and gives you a lot of control over how to modulate them, use one to modulate another, etc. This can give you everything from subtle chorus-type effects to FM, PWM, ring mod, etc.-type effects, to out-of-this-world effects. This synth makes astounding pads, basses, leads, etc., and makes some of the nicest supersaws and choir pads (many vocal/formant oscillators to choose from) I've ever made with ease.

It also has an excellent filter with dozens of filter types (HP, LP, BP, BR, Moog-type, fat, thin, formant, you name it), amazing effects (pretty much the same as those in Warmverb), and a ton of modulation capabilities.

I probably sound like an ad for the synth, huh? Anyway, check out the demo - it's a full-featured version that includes all of the thousand or so presets (which are surprisingly good btw), and it's crippled by a 10-minute/instance time limit and an occasional voice-over.

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Speaking of Warmverb, I've been thinking of checking it out. Any good?
(guess I should just try the demo hey! )

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Originally posted by daveth Speaking of Warmverb, I've been thinking of checking it out. Any good? (guess I should just try the demo hey! )

Yeah, Warmverb is my go-to effects plug - definitely check out the demo. It's the first Tone2 product I ever purchased, which heavily influenced my decision to buy FilterBank3, my go-to filter. I love both of those so much that they prompted me to dive into Gladiator2. The funny thing is, when Gladiator1 was initially released, I gave the demo a quick try and dismissed it as just another subtractive synth without giving it much chance. Whoops!

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I gave the demo a try and liked it quite a bit. Will probably grab it once I have some more funds.
Cubase 4, Omnisphere and brand new DJ gear are kind of stretching the budget

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Damn, sounds real nice...Gonna give it a shot.

the precursor was very good, indeed a nice allround synth with a lot of possibilities in changing the timbre of your sound. Also the FX and filter section are some of the best I've encountered yet. I wonder how version 2 has been improved compared to the first.

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Gladiator is ridiculous!! Warmverb is my favorite fx plugin...check them both!

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Originally posted by cybernetica I wonder how version 2 has been improved compared to the first.

They only made a few changes:

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The HCM3 engine extends HCM synthesis with complex phase manipulation. It provides warmer sounds, noisy sounds, 'analogue' sounds and a bigger sonic range. ● At least 300 new presets; Improved and sorted 'old' factory presets ● New quality mode: 'Ultra' provides 2x oversampling for audio and modulation sources with psychoacoustical postprocessing ● New quality mode: 'Linear' provides highest precision rendering with linear phase for audiophiles and scientific applications ● 6657 additional waveforms OSC 1A-4D ● 25 additional waveforms for OSC 5 ● OSC 5 can be played as additional subosc ● New and improved filters ● 6 new unision modes ● Separate pan for OSCs ● Improved modulation: More sources, more destinations, more routings, more slots in mod matrix, 2 Aux envelopes, more LFOs with more features, double precision rendering, shapers for envelopes ● 10 additional effects Top section: ● 300 new sounds ● Improved factory patches ● New quality mode: 'Ultra' provides 2x oversampling for modulation sources ● New quality mode: 'Linear' provides highest precision rendering with linear phase for audiophiles ● Psychoacoustical postprocessing for warmer sound ● Improved performance ● Improved random function ● Maximum voice number has been increased to 256 ● New knob: 'FX MIX' allows dry/wet mixing of effects ● Faster patch changes ● Reduced glitches on patch changes ● Postprocessing filter for rendering with linear phase: Smaller frequency falloff above 12 kHz ● Improved robustness ● Fixed typo in At(h)mos OSC section - OSC 1A-4D: The HCM3 synthesis engine extends HCM with complex phase manipulation and provides warmer, more 'analogue' sound. ● 6657 additional waveforms ● Improved sound: Low frequency OSCs are calculated with higher precision ● Improved performance: Faster preprocessing ● New buttons: 'random' for OSCs. Randomizes OSC1/2 or OSC3/4 settings. ● New buttons: 'copy' OSC ● New buttons: 'paste' OSC ● New buttons: 'resynthesis' (part of an expansion) ● New buttons: 'vocoder' (part of an expansion) ● New knob: 'phasemod value'. Sets the depth of phase monipulatuion ● New Modifier: 'phasemod'. It generates analogue, warm, noisy and supersaw sounds. Additional modes for 'phasemod': ● 'Noise': Adds white noise to OSCs ● 'Noise high': Adds high frequency noise to OSC ● 'Noise granular': Adds grain noise to OSC ● 'Multi slow': Generates slow supersaw sound from OSC ● 'Multi fast': Generats fast supersaw sound from OSC ● 'Multi detuned': Generates detuned supersaw sound from OSCs ● 'Fuzzy slow': Adds slow fuzzy sound to OSC ● 'Fuzzy fast': Adds fast fuzzy sound to OSC ● 'Odd/even slow': Slow PWM-like spectral detuning for OSC ● 'Odd/even fast': Fast PWM-like spectral detuning for OSC ● 'Vibrato strong hilbert': Strong vibrato on low frequencies ● 'Vibrato cos norm': Classic vibrato on all frequencies ● 'Vibrato tri/saw': Triangular shaped vibrato on all frequencies ● 'Static smear': Softens sound OSC section - OSC5: ● 25 additional waveforms ● OSC5 can be played as subosc ● New knob: 'SEMI' for semitone tuning ● New knob: 'START' sets starting offset of sample ● New button: 'RET' retrigger/not retrigger sample ● New button: 'LOOP' loop/not loop sample ● New knob: 'Load' loads a wav file to OSC5 (part of an expansion) Filter section: ● New Filter: Moog Lowpass with 24 dB ● New knob: 'SHAPE' manipulates envelope shape ● Improved sound of LP 30 dB: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of LP 30 dB Fat: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of LP 12 dB: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of LP 20 dB x2: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of LP 20 dB x1.5: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of LP 40 dB elliptic: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of LP 30: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of HP 30 dB: Improved frequency response. No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of HP 12 dB: Improved frequency response. No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of BP 15 dB: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of BP 6 dB Fat: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of BP Para: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of EQ Low shelf: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of EQ High shelf: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of EQ Peek: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of Vocals 1: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of Vocals 2: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of Vocals A: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of Vocals E: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of Vocals I: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of Vocals O: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of Vocals U: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of Phaser: No glitches on fast cutoff changes ● Improved sound of M-Shape: No glitches on fast cutoff changes Sound section: 6 new unision modes: ● '4x mono oct': Stacks 2 mono voices in 2 octaves ● '4x stereo oct': Stacks 2 stereo voices in 2 octaves ● '4x mono stack': Stacks 2 mono voices in 3 octaves ● '4x stereo stack': Stacks 2 stereo voices in 3 octaves ● '4x mono stack2': Stacks 2 mono voices in 4 octaves ● '4x stereo stack2': Stacks 2 stereo voices in 4 octaves Mixer section: ● New knob: 'PAN' for OSC1A-2D ● New knob: 'PAN' for OSC3A-4D ● New knob: 'PAN' for AM ● New knob: 'PAN' for OSC5A-5B Volume section: New knob: 'SHAPE' manipulates envelope shape for more punchy or softer sound Effect section: ● Improved sound of Flanger ● New effect: Phaser ● New effect: Flanger 2 ● New effect: Super strings (16x stereo Chorus) ● New effect: Pitch shifter ● New effect: 24 dB Lowpass for effect section ● New effect: 12 dB Bandpass for effect section ● New effect: 24 dB Highpass for effect section ● New effect: Talkbox vocal filter for effect section ● New effect: 'Reverb trance' is a reverb with detuned sound ● New effect: 'Reverb real' is a classic sounding reverb New section - 'Feedback': The new feedback delay effect applies to the effect section of FX1 and FX2. It is usefull for morphing echo sounds and filtered delay effects. ● New knob: 'GAIN' sets feedback amount ● New selector: 'FX FEEDBACK DELAY' defines delay amount ● New button: 'CLIP' clips feedback LFO section: ● Additional LFO: LFO4 ● New button: 'KEY' enables key follow for LFO frequency (usefull for FM sounds) ● New button: 'LFO 1/2' selector ● Improved Trancegate sound New section - 'Aux envelopes' Two additonal Aux enveopes can be routed in the mod matrix. ● New button: 'AUX ENV 1/2' selector ● New knob: 'AUX ENVELOPE ATTACK' ● New knob: 'AUX ENVELOPE DECAY' ● New knob: 'AUX ENVELOPE SUSTAIN' ● New knob: 'AUX ENVELOPE RELEASE' ● New knob: 'AUX ENVELOPE FADE' ● New knob: 'AUX ENVELOPE SHAPE' Mod matrix: The number of available slots in the mod matrix has been increased from 6 to 12. ● New button: 'MOD MATRIX ENV 1/2' selector ● New modulation source: 'LFO 4' ● New modulation source: 'AUX ENV 1' ● New modulation source: 'AUX ENV 2' ● New modulation source: 'flipflop' triggers to -1 or 1 on noteOn commands ● New modulation destination: 'feedback' modulates feedback delay gain ● New modulation destination: 'pan12' modulates OSC1/2 pan ● New modulation destination: 'pan34' modulates OSC3/4 pan ● New modulation destination: 'panAM' modulates AM pan ● New modulation destination: 'pan5' modulates OSC5 pan ● New modulation destination: 'semi' modulates OSC5 semitones ● New modulation destination: 'fine' modulates OSC5 finetuning ● New modulation destination: 'start' modulates OSC5 start offset ● New modulation destination: 'modAmou7' modulates amount of slot7 in the mod matrix ● New modulation destination: 'modAmou8' modulates amount of slot8 in the mod matrix ● New modulation destination: 'modAmou9' modulates amount of slot9 in the mod matrix ● New modulation destination: 'modAmou10' modulates amount of slot10 in the mod matrix ● New modulation destination: 'modAmou11' modulates amount of slot11 in the mod matrix ● New modulation destination: 'modAmou12' modulates amount of slot12 in the mod matrix GUI: ● The interface is rendered in higher quality with ambient occulsion. ● Brighter displays for better text display. ● New colors.

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