We were just talking about this at work.

My boss's daughters friends work there or something like that.

The bar responsible for how much they serve. They served them over around 35 drinks total. However, its hard to keep a track of how much your serving each person because other can buy it for you. The kids told them they were getting picked up but they lied and drove instead.

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Originally posted by ÖZmözis The bar responsible for how much they serve. They served them over around 35 drinks total. However, its hard to keep a track of how much your serving each person because other can buy it for you. The kids told them they were getting picked up but they lied and drove instead.

Alright well 35 is definitely a lot. If they specifically lied about driving obviously they fully intended to drink and drive. The kids made a stupid decision and paid for it in the ultimate way.... I feel terrible for them but its not right to try to shift the blame around to others when these kids (who are actually adults) made the decision to drink and drive.

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Originally posted by teufel-man Alright well 35 is definitely a lot. If they specifically lied about driving obviously they fully intended to drink and drive. The kids made a stupid decision and paid for it in the ultimate way.... I feel terrible for them but its not right to try to shift the blame around to others when these kids (who are actually adults) made the decision to drink and drive.

No argument there...

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any establishment that serves alcohol has a duty of care to not serve alcohol to someone who is intoxicated. The kids would still be alive if the golf club stopped serving them. I have handled several insurance claims along this line and in each one the establishment was held partially liable.

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what i don't get is that they're charging 16 people with this. How does that make any sense.

because 16 people forced alcohol into them and then demanded they drive at gunpoint?

If i were one of those 16 people charged with such bullshit id leave the country and surrender my citizenship.

This place is ridiculous

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Originally posted by Pett what i don't get is that they're charging 16 people with this. How does that make any sense.

in any lawsuit they are going to name as many parties as possible. In this case they are probably employees, directors and owners of the club.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 because 16 people forced alcohol into them and then demanded they drive at gunpoint?

Sure, you scoff today, but next time you're bound, gagged, funneled 35 bottles of Bud Light, and subsequently forced to drive to Las Vegas at gunpoint, you'll be thanking your lucky stars that our legal system has you taken care of!

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Originally posted by teufel-man Isn't the whole point of having a drinking age so we only serve drinks to those who should be old enough to make responsible decisions, such as whether or not they should drink and drive? If I am going to a bar and driving my own car there, I know how much I can drink before it is unsafe to drive, I don't need the restaurant to babysit me like I am 8 years old!

Time and time again, it has been shown that people drink and drive - people of all ages.
I do believe the establishment should be partly responsible for people who leave and cause bodily harm from behind the wheel but in this specific case I'm not sure the law is being applied appropriately.

The establishment has a legal responsibility to not serve people who are intoxicated, and the company defintely needs to be held accountable.. which they are through these charges.

That being said, charging all the staff is pretty whack. There's no way all of those people were involved in serving their drinks.

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Originally posted by Skipper Time and time again, it has been shown that people drink and drive - people of all ages. I do believe the establishment should be partly responsible for people who leave and cause bodily harm from behind the wheel but in this specific case I'm not sure the law is being applied appropriately.

People of all ages do drink and drive, but I believe adults should be held responsible for their actions. Yes the bar should be held partially responsible but I think it depends on the specific circumstance. If these kids told the bartender they were getting picked up, who is the bar to interrupt their nice summer afternoon of drinking, assuming it doesn't go overboard to the point that they are getting out of control. Obviously if you see a kid stumble or they are slurring or something then that a sign to stop, but if they are just casually ordering drinks over a few hours then who is the bar to say they are too drunk. In this case though, I must say 35 drinks is quite a bit...