Do any of you use sampled hip hop kicks for your dance tracks? What do you guys do about the BPM difference if anything at all?
Does BPM difference between a kick sampled from a 90bpm track to be used as the main kick in a 125bpm house/techno ask you to make timesretching changes, or do you guys throw in some compression with fast release times to make up for the longer tailed kicks from hip hop.
Jan-17-2009 18:17
pwnage1
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Why would you time stretch a kick sample. A single kick sample has no tempo.
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Jan-17-2009 18:53
Kismet7
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Originally posted by pwnage1
Why would you time stretch a kick sample. A single kick sample has no tempo.
Have you sampled hip hop kicks for dance music? A single kick might not have tempo but it has a transient length...you can timestretch any sound, and you can easily find the tempo of the track you sample from, and in an art of milliseconds maybe some people do timestretch kicks and other short transient samples to get it just right.
Hip Hop kicks are a bit longer in release/tail than kicks normally used in techno and tech house tracks. So in order to use them something has to be done to the transients or the amount of time it takes from attack to release, otherwise a perfectly good sounding hip hop kick is unusable around techno/house elements. So again I wonder if some employ timestretch or mainly compression, or a mix of both.
Jan-17-2009 19:29
hasbone
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Well, i haven't done that yet, but i'm pretty sure i would use something like Logic's enveloper.
Jan-17-2009 22:30
pwnage1
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A sampler with an envelope. But i would just prefer to sample kicks that i like.
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Jan-17-2009 23:19
spolitta
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With the lack of house and trance kicks out there I can tottaly see why you would want to fit a hiphop kick into a dance tune.
Jan-18-2009 03:10
Sean Walsh
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Originally posted by spolitta
With the lack of house and trance kicks out there I can tottaly see why you would want to fit a hiphop kick into a dance tune.
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Jan-18-2009 03:59
Mr.Mystery
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quote:
Originally posted by spolitta
With the lack of house and trance kicks out there I can tottaly see why you would want to fit a hiphop kick into a dance tune.
Originally posted by spolitta
With the lack of house and trance kicks out there I can tottaly see why you would want to fit a hiphop kick into a dance tune.
Do you mind sharing your amazing trance and house kick library with us? Feel free, one of the biggest obstacles is finding a really good kick. And I dont know about you but 50% of a track to me is the kick and snare/clap, so its essential for the kick to be just right, if the ambition is to make a well produced and engineered track.
Jan-18-2009 06:34
Vortex_SA
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Originally posted by Kismet7
Do you mind sharing your amazing trance and house kick library with us? Feel free, one of the biggest obstacles is finding a really good kick. And I dont know about you but 50% of a track to me is the kick and snare/clap, so its essential for the kick to be just right, if the ambition is to make a well produced and engineered track.
why wont you make your kicks? much easier than searching around for hours...
What the hell is a sampled hip hop kick?
Give me a audio example!
When i make a hip hop or rap beat i dont care what the BPM of the kicK or snair is!
I would tell you what i use for my drums sounds but why?
I just want to see what you say 1st!
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Jan-18-2009 06:58
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Are you talking about taking a drum kick off a hip hop cd or off some old record?
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