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Which Sub To buy ?

Have been saving for months now and finally have enough money to add a good subwoofer to my studio monitors .. The monitors i'm using are a set of Genelec 8040A's. I'm wanting to purchase a quality sub to run along side these babies. Have about £500 - £600 to spend. will one sub be enough or will i need one for each monitor ?

Have been looking at this one on ebay :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KRK-V12S-SERI...A1%7C240%3A1318

anyone heard this sub or own one, or can recommend something that they have heard or had experience with ...

Thanks !

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Zak McKracken
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i dont know the genelecs but do u really need a sub? considered bigger monitors?

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quote:
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i dont know the genelecs but do u really need a sub? considered bigger monitors?


The Genelecs are one of the best monitors out there for home studio use ! just need that big bass sound that I love so def need a good sub to bring that through !

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but then ur tracks will start lacking bass as u will probably set the volume on it too high? how bout a second set of monitors, big ones like PA, to test your tracks loud.

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the debate have been rolling for years about this, to use a sub or not.

there are however some facts you should take in consideration before deciding what to do (buy or don't).


The sub will help you with the lower ranges, a well known fact. 60hz & less will be hard for any normal size monitors to really deliver a truthfull sound.

installing a sub can be both easy and hard. You could go the cheap way and just put it under your table. What will happen is that you will prolly break your table, piss off your mom/wife/whatever and have shitloads of power in the low end, I mean how cool isn't that?!
Well you will realise with this kind of setup that it aint cool at all, once you start listening to your productions in other systems. "hmmm, where did the base go?".
The most common fault people do with their subs is turning it up to abnormal levels. It feels good but you're fooled in the end.

if you however do it the right way a sub can in all ways help you to getting that perfect sound and above all, help you find problematic areas in the mix that resides in the lower end.
What you need to think about is placement, acoustic treatment of the room, sub-level etc.
Hire a pro and you will prolly get the help you need. However don't expect it to be cheap (paying the pro + fixing acoustic treatment aint cheap).


my personal advice, put your money on something that give you more bang for the buck. But the decision is yours


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Get an Auralex Subdude too


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Re: Which Sub To buy ?

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Originally posted by blue-horizon
Have been saving for months now and finally have enough money to add a good subwoofer to my studio monitors .. The monitors i'm using are a set of Genelec 8040A's. I'm wanting to purchase a quality sub to run along side these babies. Have about £500 - £600 to spend. will one sub be enough or will i need one for each monitor ?

Have been looking at this one on ebay :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KRK-V12S-SERI...A1%7C240%3A1318

anyone heard this sub or own one, or can recommend something that they have heard or had experience with ...

Thanks !


you should use the matched sub from genelec. i would never mix two different brands of monitor if there are both from the same brand available. the genelec sub manages the frequency crossover itself.

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quote:
Originally posted by Vizay
the debate have been rolling for years about this, to use a sub or not.

there are however some facts you should take in consideration before deciding what to do (buy or don't).


The sub will help you with the lower ranges, a well known fact. 60hz & less will be hard for any normal size monitors to really deliver a truthfull sound.

installing a sub can be both easy and hard. You could go the cheap way and just put it under your table. What will happen is that you will prolly break your table, piss off your mom/wife/whatever and have shitloads of power in the low end, I mean how cool isn't that?!
Well you will realise with this kind of setup that it aint cool at all, once you start listening to your productions in other systems. "hmmm, where did the base go?".
The most common fault people do with their subs is turning it up to abnormal levels. It feels good but you're fooled in the end.

if you however do it the right way a sub can in all ways help you to getting that perfect sound and above all, help you find problematic areas in the mix that resides in the lower end.
What you need to think about is placement, acoustic treatment of the room, sub-level etc.
Hire a pro and you will prolly get the help you need. However don't expect it to be cheap (paying the pro + fixing acoustic treatment aint cheap).


my personal advice, put your money on something that give you more bang for the buck. But the decision is yours


Like what ? a new synth or something ! I already own a virus TI, dont wanna buy anymore hardware till i,ve mastered using the TI, think its all about keeping the sub at the proper level and placement as you said, turining the volume up will def overpower the monitors so im aware of this problem ... anyone have a sub ?

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I use a sub


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Re: Re: Which Sub To buy ?

quote:
Originally posted by thecYrus
you should use the matched sub from genelec. i would never mix two different brands of monitor if there are both from the same brand available. the genelec sub manages the frequency crossover itself.


Was thinking that mate, they are pricey though think they are round £700 - £800 for one thats another few months saving. Might just do that !

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quote:
Originally posted by Ry Thomas
I use a sub


which one mate ?

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