Yeah i saw this on Colbert Report the other night, im not sure if its really my thing but the concept is great and i would help support it i was asked.

I signed up, but haven't spent much time looking around at it yet. From the little bit I did see, it looks like a giant online DAW. I'll look into it a little more later this week after my work load settles down.

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took a look, the site runs slow would be my first impression. It has a nice basic design, although a bit unorganized and thinly moderated. It seems to have great features though and an interested community. I'm always looking for fellow local producers / sound engineers / djs to collaborate with, so I might make some use of it in the future. At the moment it looks like that might be a while. If it grows, it seems like the perfect tool for the record industry to find talent and music at low costs. Great for people who want to collaborate and share.

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I've signed up several months ago. They always have a remix contest going, you can win money and prizes; but beyond that, I find it a huge waste of time. A lot of the so called "musicians" on the site are rank amateurs. If you look through the different projects, a lot of them use songs from major artists as the song they want to collab on. They are supposed to post a clip of their song idea. I get the idea most of the people posting projects are not very serious about it. You are more likely to find a decent collab partner here, or elsewhere.

It's funny, most of the musicians on sites like this are guitarists and producers looking for vocalists and drummers. OK, that's pretty typical, can't blame the site for that. Vocalists and drummers are always the hardest to find in the real world. So the same situation exists in cyberspace too.

I don't like the webpage based recording/tracking software. I'd rather use my own production tools.

Here's another site, same thing http://www.minimumnoise.com/Projects.aspx

I think it's a better than Indaba Music. Since a lot of the projects are paying jobs, the people are more serious. OK, it would nice to get paid for guitar session work or production work, but you have to compete for work, and of course there's no guarantees you will get paid. Even if you're not wanting to make money, this site's simplicity, and no web based production tools, makes it a bit easier to deal with. It's a new site, so not a lot of activity there.

Both these sites are fine if you aren't serious about music, and just want to have fun and jam with people from around the world. Otherwise, both of these sites are a huge waste of time. Good concept, and I'm not blaming the sites themselves, it's the "free for all" nature that ruins it.

I found an up and coming Indie Rock artist to collab with on soundclick.com, through the forums there. Just luck I guess. Probably would of taken me years to find that on the two above mentioned sites.

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Originally posted by zodiac9 I've signed up several months ago. They always have a remix contest going, you can win money and prizes; but beyond that, I find it a huge waste of time. A lot of the so called "musicians" on the site are rank amateurs. If you look through the different projects, a lot of them use songs from major artists as the song they want to collab on. They are supposed to post a clip of their song idea. I get the idea most of the people posting projects are not very serious about it. You are more likely to find a decent collab partner here, or elsewhere. It's funny, most of the musicians on sites like this are guitarists and producers looking for vocalists and drummers. OK, that's pretty typical, can't blame the site for that. Vocalists and drummers are always the hardest to find in the real world. So the same situation exists in cyberspace too. I don't like the webpage based recording/tracking software. I'd rather use my own production tools. Here's another site, same thing http://www.minimumnoise.com/Projects.aspx I think it's a better than Indaba Music. Since a lot of the projects are paying jobs, the people are more serious. OK, it would nice to get paid for guitar session work or production work, but you have to compete for work, and of course there's no guarantees you will get paid. Even if you're not wanting to make money, this site's simplicity, and no web based production tools, makes it a bit easier to deal with. It's a new site, so not a lot of activity there. Both these sites are fine if you aren't serious about music, and just want to have fun and jam with people from around the world. Otherwise, both of these sites are a huge waste of time. Good concept, and I'm not blaming the sites themselves, it's the "free for all" nature that ruins it. I found an up and coming Indie Rock artist to collab with on soundclick.com, through the forums there. Just luck I guess. Probably would of taken me years to find that on the two above mentioned sites.

Interesting review. Aside from the sites overlying intended purpose, the site might be a good way for major studios to get amatuer musicians and maybe even the more experienced bedroom musicians to rework/remix famous pop,rock, and rap tracks to virally help market those songs and artists on the internet. Say you have some "kid" start a contest to remix Kate Perry - I kissed a girl, have a reward of sorts, maybe even without a reward, of course 20-30 attention seekers are going to sit there trying to remix the track, and then run around the internet posting their remix in hopes of getting some love online. Which would turn into a great inexpensive viral marketing tool for the record industry, especially if this turns into something cultural on the internet.

If you have the major media giving a site like this which is still practically shit and hasn't done anything yet that is really newsworthy yet, then it does seem like there is something bigger behind it. Radio shows, Colbert's show, and whatever else is pushing this site is quite interesting to see. So ultimately this might just be a really smart marketing tool for the record industry and other major media. Sickazz analysis? We'll see how this site develops. I hope its genuinely a site for people to collaborate and share ideas, if its some elaborate marketing tool for popular music, shame. If actually does turn out to be a really great collaboration community + an elaborate marketing tool for the major medias, then thats allright i guess.

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Originally posted by Kismet7 Interesting review. Aside from the sites overlying intended purpose, the site might be a good way for major studios to get amatuer musicians and maybe even the more experienced bedroom musicians to rework/remix famous pop,rock, and rap tracks to virally help market those songs and artists on the internet. Say you have some "kid" start a contest to remix Kate Perry - I kissed a girl, have a reward of sorts, maybe even without a reward, of course 20-30 attention seekers are going to sit there trying to remix the track, and then run around the internet posting their remix in hopes of getting some love online. Which would turn into a great inexpensive viral marketing tool for the record industry, especially if this turns into something cultural on the internet. If you have the major media giving a site like this which is still practically shit and hasn't done anything yet that is really newsworthy yet, then it does seem like there is something bigger behind it. Radio shows, Colbert's show, and whatever else is pushing this site is quite interesting to see. So ultimately this might just be a really smart marketing tool for the record industry and other major media. Sickazz analysis? We'll see how this site develops. I hope its genuinely a site for people to collaborate and share ideas, if its some elaborate marketing tool for popular music, shame. If actually does turn out to be a really great collaboration community + an elaborate marketing tool for the major medias, then thats allright i guess.

You're right, it is an inexpensive viral marketing tool for the record industry. All the remix contests are big names, like Mariah Carey, The Roots, funded by the major record companies. No doubt, this site has solid backing from major players. All remix contests are for promotion, obviously. Nothing wrong with that. The competition is furious on Indaba, just from the sheer number of submissions. No lack of participation. The odds of winning are pretty low, especially if you don't do hip hop remixes. I'm no fan of remix contests, but in that respect, the site is one of the best I've seen.

You make a good point, it's really more of a remix contest site. That's why the collab stuff takes a back seat. I've heard some decent rock and pop collabs there. It's still a cluster F though. If may work for some people, but I just don't like the way it's done there.

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