Hey guys, I've been using these shitty Sennheiser 280pro's, they sound great, but, are horrible for mixing and producing. I have good monitors but, I mostly make music at night when everyone is sleeping, so I need to be able to monitor my mixes with somewhat accuracy without my monitors.

So I have been searching, on this forum and elsewhere but, don't really hear much about these headphones besides the reviews on Sweetwater. So anyone have these or anyone know anything about them?

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/K701/


Edit: I know it is hard to monitor bass on headphones but, this is the one thing I am trying to accomplish. I just want to be able to get my whole mix including bass to be very close to where I want it. I can get it there with my 280 pro's, but, when i listen on other speakers to reference, it sounds totally opposite of how it sounded in the 280's. Will I be able to get close with the 701's?

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Last edited by Lucidity on Feb-04-2009 at 13:05

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Originally posted by Lucidity Will I be able to get close with the 701's?

no one can guarantee you that u'll do better mixes with the akg headphones. but yeah compared to hd280s they are better.

i think a lot of people in here use the k240. you should check those also, i think they're a bit cheaper and sound quite nice.

good luck!

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Originally posted by djsphere i think a lot of people in here use the k240. you should check those also, i think they're a bit cheaper and sound quite nice.

i use them.. i haven't heard 701 but i can highy recommend you 240s

So when you guys mix on the 240's do your mixes translate to other systems well? Cause see, my problem isn't getting the mix right, cause I do get it right in my headphones, almost perfectly the way I want it, its just that it doesn't ever translate to other systems, which is why I want to try a new pair of cans.

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Regarding the crappy mixes with the HD280Pros - that's not surprising. They're a closed-back and tight-fitting design that is better for tracking, where controlling bleed is important. They're not designed to be accurate, particularly in the lower frequencies. The HD600s are Sennheiser's best open-back mixing cans.

I've heard nothing but good things about the 701s, but have never heard them for myself. I'd consider the BeyerDynamic DT880s (semi-open) or DT990s (open-back) as well. I have the DT880s and love them.

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i use 701's, amazing

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These phones are not cheap but if you need a seriously good quality construction and sound, the 990s are excellent. I`ve been using them for about 4 years now and have found them to give me the best mixes and thats comparing them to the AKG 270s, the Sony 7506s and the Sennheiser HD 280s."

So now this just makes me more confused. Are they better than AKG's, for me, I will spend money for good cans, I just wanna pick the most ideal pair to get my mixes translating to different systems.

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Originally posted by Ry Thomas i use 701's, amazing

Are the mixes translating well to other systems? Will what I mix on these sound good on another system if it sounds good on these?

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They do for me, very little to do when i transfer to monitors

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hey mate, if you do a search for headphones instead of monitors i started a thread about it a while ago...

check out this article on mixing on headphones, and accounting for the discrepancy between mixing on headphones/mixing on monitors

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan...gheadphones.htm

I ended up getting the k 240 mk iis after i started a different thread asking what headphones to get

i use them for an entire track with no worries, then chuck them onto some speakers and it's usually a case of minor tweaking, like upping reverb, and sometimes the bass a little... usually translates really well, and once you learn the areas you need to boost you can fix it up no worries (like no i just automatically add a little more reverb than sounds natural through the headphones cause i know it needs it through monitors)

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Originally posted by Lucidity So when you guys mix on the 240's do your mixes translate to other systems well? Cause see, my problem isn't getting the mix right, cause I do get it right in my headphones, almost perfectly the way I want it, its just that it doesn't ever translate to other systems, which is why I want to try a new pair of cans.

No mix done entirely on any cans will ever translate well to other systems. You should spend at least half your time working on monitors with decent bass response or even a hi-fi setup with a sub.

Some will get you closer than others - AKG 240 or newer/better is usually a safe bet - but you still don't want to do your whole mix on them.

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I haven´t been able to reference anything I´ve mixed with them, but I can say they are
VERY revealing. And incredibly neutral! At least the most neutral cans I´ve ever heard.
Not that I´ve heard so many. They might need some play time to fully "open up,
and make you used to their bass response. If you got the cash, I´d say go for it. But
the best would be to audition several different brands first. But all I can say I love them.