Fuck, what is this? I'm Jewish and I totally deplore this kind of aggression...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28397813/

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It's about time Israel responded to the ongoing barrage of rockets Hamas has been firing lately.
Don't mess with Israel.

well a very proportionate response

those rockets fired by Hamas really destroyed that Israeli tumbleweed

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Originally posted by CHRles It's about time Israel responded to the ongoing barrage of rockets Hamas has been firing lately. Don't mess with Israel.

16 Israelis have been killed by Palestinian rocket fire since 2000 CLICK. Meanwhile, 192 Palestinians are killed in just one day by Israel. According to that ratio alone, Israel deserves every mortar and rocket that comes out of Gaza.

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Said Masri sat in the middle of a Gaza City street, close to a security compound, alternately slapping his face and covering his head with dust from the bombed-out building. "My son is gone, my son is gone," wailed Masri, 57. The shopkeeper said he sent his 9-year-old son out to purchase cigarettes minutes before the airstrikes began and now could not find him. "May I burn like the cigarettes, may Israel burn," Masri moaned.

Oh yeaaa, those rockets sure are gonna stop now aren't they?

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Israel is asking for it. They have a right to defend themselves (thats disregarding arguments about the legitimacy of their state though) but they need to defend themselves with equal and restrained force.

to think i had to use a fake id to buy smokes before i quit...


but seriously, ROCKETS!!! WE ARE UNDER ROCKET ATTACK IN ISRAEL!!!

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Originally posted by Krypton 16 Israelis have been killed by Palestinian rocket fire since 2000 CLICK. Meanwhile, 192 Palestinians are killed in just one day by Israel. According to that ratio alone, Israel deserves every mortar and rocket that comes out of Gaza. Oh yeaaa, those rockets sure are gonna stop now aren't they?

data: 200 rockets fired despite and since the truce brokered last week.

- 3000 rockets this year alone.

there are no "ratio's" in war...and yes, THATS WHAT HAMAS WANTS.

30, 20, maybe even a dozen years ago leaders of all neighboring Arab countries would have mobilized their armies to bring the conflict to Israel's door from all sides but more telling now are what those same countries will not do in the coming days. i think you'll see, Hamas gets magnitudes less sympathy because no one but Hamas wants war.

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Originally posted by Q5echo data: 200 rockets fired despite and since the truce brokered last week. - 3000 rockets this year alone. there are no "ratio's" in war...and yes, THATS WHAT HAMAS WANTS. 30, 20, maybe even a dozen years ago leaders of all neighboring Arab countries would have mobilized their armies to bring the conflict to Israel's door from all sides but more telling now are what those same countries will not do in the coming days. i think you'll see, Hamas gets magnitudes less sympathy because no one but Hamas wants war.

Right, who cares if those rockets still only killed 16 Israelis...

If you are going to say things like there are no ratios in war then you should be the same type to think that all is fair and that suicide bombing civilians on a bus is the same as shooting a AGM-65 Maverick into an apartment block to take out one suspected bomb maker.

In the end both sides are human, equally worthless or equally priceless depending on how you view war.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Right, who cares if those rockets still only killed 16 Israelis...

who cares? people who would rather live in peace care. and as a fellow human i'm sure you can sympathize constantly living in fear is a fate, at least, similar to death.

your only argument is premised on the fact that Hamas isn't efficient enough in war to be acceptable to modern standards, right?

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If you are going to say things like there are no ratios in war then you should be the same type to think that all is fair and that suicide bombing civilians on a bus is the same as shooting a AGM-65 Maverick into an apartment block to take out one suspected bomb maker.

agree to an extent.

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In the end both sides are human, equally worthless or equally priceless depending on how you view war.

thats not really saying much, is it? it's an intelectually backwards statement unless you meant to put the in front of war as opposed to generalizing it.

war is human as much as peace is but one will invariably follow the other and will ALWAYS depend on how much human life is valued over death or the fear of death. just prior to this escalation only one side of "humans" value death over life - war over peace.

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Originally posted by Q5echo data: 200 rockets fired despite and since the truce brokered last week. - 3000 rockets this year alone. there are no "ratio's" in war...and yes, THATS WHAT HAMAS WANTS. 30, 20, maybe even a dozen years ago leaders of all neighboring Arab countries would have mobilized their armies to bring the conflict to Israel's door from all sides but more telling now are what those same countries will not do in the coming days. i think you'll see, Hamas gets magnitudes less sympathy because no one but Hamas wants war.

Nice job leaving out what Israel failed to do. Lift the blockade which is a collective punishment on all Palestinians and against international law. You get an A+.

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Originally posted by Krypton Nice job leaving out what Israel failed to do. Lift the blockade which is a collective punishment on all Palestinians and against international law. You get an A+.

you dumbfuck, Egypt is as much a part of the blockade as Israel. >LINK<

i bet you didn't know that. another big fail mark for Krypton.

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Originally posted by Q5echo you dumbfuck, Egypt is as much a part of the blockade as Israel. >LINK< i bet you didn't know that. another big fail mark for Krypton.

Oh nice. Thanks for pointing out the support of the Egyptian dictatorship of Mubarak supported by Israel and United States in subjugating the Palestinians.

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CAIRO (Reuters) - Israeli raids on the Gaza Strip, which killed at least 208 people on Saturday, have raised the stakes for Egypt in maintaining a blockade on the territory in spite of strong opposition from the Egyptian public.

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