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Lemonad
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: big ol Sydney
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Mar-13-2009 23:33
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Groundhog Boy
Stupidity Offends Me

Registered: May 2005
Location: New York, NY
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I just don't understand why everyone seems to think that CNBC only has "journalists" that work for them. Mad Money & Fast Money are not "journalism."
I watch the Daily Show every day, but I can't say I've been agreeing with Jon when he blames CNBC for 401K plans falling. It's a bit ridiculous, but I guess just blaming bank CEOs and Bush is getting old.
The most ridiculous part of this whole situation is to read comments sections about this and see how little people actually know what they're talking about. I saw Jim Cramer called a far right winger, along with Anne Coulter and Bill O'Reilly on CNN a few minutes ago. I guess everyone missed his endorsements of Obama last year.
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Mar-13-2009 23:53
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Capitalizt
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: USA
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| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I watch the Daily Show every day, but I can't say I've been agreeing with Jon when he blames CNBC for 401K plans falling. It's a bit ridiculous, but I guess just blaming bank CEOs and Bush is getting old.
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Yeah Cramer could have defended himself better. The tape evidence that damned him on manipulating stocks really didn't tie in at all to the point John was making about overleverage at Bear Stearns and other places, but I guess Cramer was too embarrassed/ashamed to point this out. He became pretty incoherent after those video clips.
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Mar-14-2009 00:07
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Groundhog Boy
Stupidity Offends Me

Registered: May 2005
Location: New York, NY
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| quote: | Originally posted by josh4
Its really sad Comedy Central is the only outlet holding these networks and organizations accountable. |
I'm still not sure what they're supposed to be accountable for.
Not predicting the crisis? They were bringing up subprime issues years ago on CNBC, but no one saw that because those clips weren't circulated on all of the blogs. Did they think it would take down the entire economy - No. Few people did and the ones that did are rich because they shorted the sectors.
It's not that I'm saying CNBC is the best station ever, but I'm still waiting for people to put the blame on the general public for this crisis, which is where a lot of it belongs. I know better than to think that would happen, though. Everyone complains about over-leveraged banks, but no one comments about the average consumer that's more levered than the banks through their subprime loans, HELOCs and credit cards, which is why they're now going bankrupt and/or foreclosing. It also really annoys me that I actually hear people say that they didn't benefit when the market was good, ignoring all of the technological advances that only occurred because the bullish stock market made that R&D and production available.
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"Go back to bed america your government is in control
Here's American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it,
Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
Here you go America you are free to do as we tell you
We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul
Last edited by Groundhog Boy on Mar-14-2009 at 15:44
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Mar-14-2009 15:26
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The17sss
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Registered: May 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
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haha... Cramer kind of had this coming. But, it's stupid that Stewart NOW has a problem with Cramer, since he started criticizing Obama's policies. But what did this "moment in media history" as a previous poster tell us anyway? Hedge Funds! Short-selling! Gamesters and players on Wall Street! Who knew??? I mean it's never been talked about, right? Then Stewart plays a clip of Kramer talking about it a couple of years ago. Whatever. If he wants to bloviate about short sellers, how about bringing George Soros on? Thank God we have Jon Stewart to expose all this for us. When comedians who were once funny drift too far into the political, they always seem to turn into bitter and angry jerk-offs (see Chris Rock, Bill Maher, et al)... people watch comedy routines for release and laughter, not to get more angry. 
Plus, towards the end of the interview, you'll notice Stewart has seemlessly transitioned from a critique of financial media into a critique of investment itself. How silly of Americans to think that they might make money from something other than their own labor. 
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Mar-15-2009 02:47
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sean5
Suspended User
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: United States
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as someone else pointed out, cramer has sucked ass for a while now, so there is obviously something else to this sudden "fight". my guess is that cramer was getting out of hand instead of sticking to the plan and his "people" didn't like that.
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Mar-15-2009 03:00
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jerZ07002
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Dec 2006
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once you move into the cable TV world you become more of an entertainer than a reporter.
People should stop trying to find targets for blame and do a self evaluation. people who couldn't afford their mortgages are just as blameworthy as any bank. Ignorance has never been a defense and it shouldn't in this case either (ignorance of their own financial situation is a pretty weak argument in any case).
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Mar-15-2009 03:14
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