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MrJiveBoJingles
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WTF is "warm sound" anyway?

What do people mean by "warm" and "warm sound?" Most of the time I hear it used to refer to full, beefy bass like you get from an analog synth, and other times I see it referring to pleasant distortion and noise like you get from a tube amp, but in the "Ableton" thread I see it referring to 5Khz+ frequencies that provide the top-end sizzle. The use of "warm" and "warmth" is not at all consistent.

I think it's just a meaningless term of praise that people hand out whenever they want to say "I like this sound," and then they use "cold" to mean "I don't like this sound."

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EddieZilker
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Re: WTF is "warm sound" anyway?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
What do people mean by "warm" and "warm sound?" Most of the time I hear it used to refer to full, beefy bass like you get from an analog synth, and other times I see it referring to pleasant distortion and noise like you get from a tube amp, but in the "Ableton" thread I see it referring to 5Khz+ frequencies that provide the top-end sizzle. The use of "warm" and "warmth" is not at all consistent.

I think it's just a meaningless term of praise that people hand out whenever they want to say "I like this sound," and then they use "cold" to mean "I don't like this sound."


My understanding is that it refers to subtle harmonics often imparted on analogue pathways. If a sound is rich in these harmonics it is generally regarded as 'warm'. Other terms such as 'fat' and 'rich', are also used to describe the same psycho-acoustic phenomena.

For what it's worth, I think such terminology tends to get applied to other areas, sometimes inappropriately. It's a bit like how some people use psychotic to describe someone who may, in fact, be psychopathic.

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Id say it mostly refers to saturation.


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MOK
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For what it's worth, I think such terminology tends to get applied to other areas, sometimes inappropriately. It's a bit like how some people use psychotic to describe someone who may, in fact, be psychopathic.
Agreed.... Those buzz words are actually starting to get on my nerves.
But I guess they're inevitable when it's difficult to precisely describe so many sonic characteristics.

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I enjoy some music from Black Sun Empire....all those tracks use mostly cold sounds.

Warm and Cold refers to the general feel of a sound. The emotional aspect of hearing something. One could also say all major chords are warm whilst all minor chords are cold, generally speaking.


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MOK
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My first impression is that now you're co-opting the terms to fit your own preference!
I agree that certain chords can aptly be described as warm or cold, but the context of the post, as I understand it, is about texture, without regard to tonality.

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Stef
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Well warmth is literally a feeling inspired by the synth work laid down in a track and the quality of it. Warmth isn't a set a definition but more of a variable dependent on the person listening. Its like the feel good news at the end of the news show, a pleasant addition that just adds to the overall show and makes something complete. I know this sounds quite vague and I'm sorry about that, though there are certain effects that stimulate this kind of sound. What kinds to mind is subtle delay effects and subtle distortion that sort of mimics a guitar amp rather than just degrading the sound. My personal opinion of what sounds warm is the track:
Breakfast & Mike Saint Jules - Only Two Should Know

It's just a matter of opinion really and is mostly due to what the person finds appealing in a track and emphasizing that feature with subtle effects.

I'm interested in what other people have to say about this, and if some of the more pro guys could comment it would be great.

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Has nothing to do with chords/scales or actual musical content to me... I think its just about having a type of distortion which is mainly imparting (I think?) even harmonics, and is particularly beefy in the 500-1500 hz range. Too much warmth leads to tubbiness/muddiness.


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Has nothing to do with chords/scales or actual musical content to me... I think its just about having a type of distortion which is mainly imparting (I think?) even harmonics, and is particularly beefy in the 500-1500 hz range. Too much warmth leads to tubbiness/muddiness.
Yeah, i cant think of any high freq/pitched sound being warm.


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Hi guys,

Yeah, as has already been stated, my understanding is that 'warmth' is a term used in reference to the distortion imparted on harmocis in lower frequency tones.

'Sizzle' is a term often used in refernce to the certain harmonics which result in clear and crisp high end frequencies.

...or something like that

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I don't think that warm and high are neccearily mutually exclusive, like a guitar might have a lot of shimmer on top but still be nice and warm in the middle. But yeah, you can't have a really high pitched sound that's warm IMO. It would have to have some low end as well.


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try 2 distressors via parallel compression or on your main mix and you'll find out........... again a perfect example of something that currently can be emulated, but can't be replicated in software....


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