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Anyone know much about this?

I read a bit about it but forget where.

Is this sort of like, "What the mindset of society thinks reflects in the economy?"

I believe this to be a major factor in the 'hope and light' speeches given by both Obama and Harper recently...

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Russia would be number one.

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It's a new indicator, and has met a lot of resistance, but here's the link to the group that aggregates the data.

http://www.iim-edu.org/managementbe...nessProject.pdf

These are the criteria they use to measure:

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1. Economic satisfaction (savings, debt and purchase power) 2. Environmental satisfaction: (pollution, noise and traffic) 3. Workplace satisfaction (job satisfaction, motivation, ethics, conflict, etc.) 4. Physical health (Severe illnesses, overweight,..) 5. Mental health (usage of antidepressants, self-esteem, positive outlook..) 6. Social satisfaction [including family and relationship satisfaction] (domestic disputes, communication, support, sex, discrimination, safety, divorce rates, complaints of domestic conflicts and family lawsuits, public lawsuits, crime rates, etc.) 7. Political satisfaction (quality of local democracy, individual freedom, and foreign conflicts, etc.)

I think you can probably guess from the categories used that Russia doesn't fare well.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I think you can probably guess from the categories used that Russia doesn't fare well.

You simply misunderstand Russian mentality - we don`t measure everything in life in money. You still can`t get it? And actualy we have foreigh consumer products we just use them a bit longer for economy - we dont waste money like you.

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Originally posted by VictorJukov You simply misunderstand Russian mentality - we don`t measure everything in life in money. You still can`t get it? And actualy we have foreigh consumer products we just use them a bit longer for economy - we dont waste money like you.

Assumptions aside, you obviously didn't look at the seven factors that go into producing the figure - only one was related to consumption - I was referring to the environment, workplace (how's unemployment over there?), individual freedoms, and mental health (considering Russia has one of the highest depression rates in the world).

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Assumptions aside, you obviously didn't look at the seven factors that go into producing the figure - only one was related to consumption - I was referring to the environment, workplace (how's unemployment over there?), individual freedoms, and mental health (considering Russia has one of the highest depression rates in the world).

I certainly did.

Russia would be top in all if not for faked figures by western governments.

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Originally posted by VictorJukov I certainly did. Russia would be top in all if not for faked figures by western governments.

Are you claiming that your own President was part of this Western conspiracy when he said this?

"Our country is in a threatened state. If we don't deal with this, then in 10, 20, 30 years we could be in a situation where part of the country's territory is unfit for habitation."

-Dmitry Medvedev

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Are you claiming that your own President was part of this Western conspiracy when he said this? "Our country is in a threatened state. If we don't deal with this, then in 10, 20, 30 years we could be in a situation where part of the country's territory is unfit for habitation." -Dmitry Medvedev

he was talking about immigrants.

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Originally posted by VictorJukov he was talking about immigrants.

Ok, bud.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008...ironmental.html

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Originally posted by VictorJukov Russia would be number one.

Sorry I couldnt help it! ... That statement is actually very far from the truth. I lived there, I can tell you that myself.

High suicide rate, emigration, crime, poverty, decreasing natural growtth, etc. etc. etc. - man, Russia is in serious trouble. Denying it is actually what is worsening the problem.

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Originally posted by VictorJukov Russia would be number one.

Jesus Christ man this is getting really f*cking old. Can you say anything else except "We're the best at everything..woooooohooo!"
I've seen dozens of your posts over the past 2 weeks and every single one contains some shit about Russia being the most happy/prosperous/powerful country on the planet.

I wouldn't mind a little cheerleading if it were remotely true..but the fact is Russia is a semi-totalitarian frozen shithole where most people live in squalor. It's so depressing that nobody in the civilized world ever visits it.

Time to accept reality.