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lowski
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pioneer trouble

hey guys , i was wondering if someone could help me. I'm having a problem with my dj set up. I have 2 pioneer cdj 1000MK2 and a djm 600 mixer.

now the problem is that the sound seems to be phasing. example, when just a kick is playing you can hear the highs cutting in and out and the bass level seems inconsistant. it's not the monitors and i don't think it's the cdjs. the odd thing on my mixer is when i move the master fader from left to right it the level stays centered. my mixer is set on stereo and i can tell that it's coming throw in stereo, but this lite phasing sound i can't get rid of.

has anyone experienced this, or know what i should do . thanks

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n3lly
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I don't mean to be silly or anything but have you check that none of the effects are on etc..

Does it do it with both decks?

Have you made sure that you've plugged the cdj's into the line in RCA inputs.

When you say phasing do you mean 1 song played on it's own does it or when you're mixing one song into another one it starts phasing?

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lowski
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ok i figured out what it was. it's from the cdj, when i have the master tempo botton on it makes it sound like shit. is this normal or do i need to get these fixed?

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miamitranceman
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ok i figured out what it was. it's from the cdj, when i have the master tempo botton on it makes it sound like shit. is this normal or do i need to get these fixed?


Well, it shouldn't sound like "shit" unless you're pitching way up or down. The master tempo under typical use only has a barely noticeable degradation in sound. It's practically imperceptible.


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lowski
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i have my temp range set to +/- 6, and within that range it's phasing. Should i take them in?

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mzvirbulis
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Registered: Dec 2004
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nah you dont need to take them in, its just a pitch correction algorithm built into the firmware of the cdj. The only thing i can see of improving it might be the audio format.
Such a mp3 now you can have vbr or cbr, i remember reading (pioneer forums) that playing in vbr created some artifacts, dont quote me though! Oh and this would not apply to you as you cant play mp3 lol.

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lowski
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how do i fix this problem then. i'm already only playing 320kbps quailty songs. do the cdj 800's have this problem to?. maybe i'll just get new decks, cuz i can't record a quilty sounding mix with these

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record a sample and post it up


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mzvirbulis
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It sounds a bit weird that both cd decks are having the same issue?
have you tried the cdj's on another input source or atleast put another cd player through your mixer?

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have you made sure that the cdjs have the most current firmware?

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DJ RANN
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Registered: May 2001
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quote:
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how do i fix this problem then. i'm already only playing 320kbps quailty songs. do the cdj 800's have this problem to?. maybe i'll just get new decks, cuz i can't record a quilty sounding mix with these


It's not a fault as such with the CDJ's - I personally don't like to use master tempo at all - it just doesn't sound good, most of the time it sounds like the percussion timing is off in the track itself. It gets especially bad at anything over 3%. You get like a "second kick" which is slightly off and then weird artifacts in other frequency bands.

When you say mp3, you mean you're burning 320's to audio CD's? I would just buy the wav's in the first place, especially as you have a really great setup.

Firmware might help, but TBH, master tempo is not a good idea if the highest quality is what you're after.

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lowski
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have you made sure that the cdjs have the most current firmware?


hey thanks for the help guys

how can i tell what firmware i have?. i'm googling around but i don't quite understand what it is.


so dj rann, what you are saying is that i'm out of luck and need to start djing with it off?. i hate the sound of having to touch a track to slow it down or speed it up while you are mixing.

yeah the track quailty is 320 and i burn them to an audio cd. as for getting the wav?, the files are way to big, and downloading them would take forever.

i will post a sample of the master tempo on/off to show you guys how shitty it sounds hopefully there's something that can be improved cuz i really like using the master tempo

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