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DJ Robby Rox
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Tiestoland
What kind of performance boost can I expect with this upgrade?

I'm just sick and tired of not being able to finish my best tracks because right now I have a Pentium D 3.0 (passmark of 768 from cpubenchmark.com)(not overclocked)

On one project I have the following instances running:
Gladiator (bass)mono
FireBird (lead) mono
Toxic Biohazard (pad)2 keys/octaves
Z3ta (bass) mono
Albino (arp)2 keys/octaves
Nexus (lead layer) 4 keys/octaves

and I'm hitting 80% prob a good 15% is coming from fxs alone.

I have the core2duo E7400 2.8ghz coming with new mobo that I can overclock so I'll be hopefully getting up to 3.4ghz with it. Its rated 1833 on cpubenchmark.com

My question now, because the passmark is more then double, AND I'll be overclocking, does that = a more then double performance increase?

Like double the amount of vsts? Relatively speaking of course, or no am I way off?
Thanks, I'm excited so any help I'd appreciate.

Using FL Studio btw.


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Subtle
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Urban Shakedown

It depends on the latency you are going to use.

I have a CPU that is the equivalent of the one you are getting at a speed of 2.5 GHZ, i use 1024 samples latency and have never runned out of CPU yet.

I havent tested the limit yet, but i loaded about 30 VST instruments for a project once, without even breaking the 50% barrier.

Oh and you are running FL Studio which means you will only be using one core, which then means that what i just wrote prolly does not mean shit.

But yeah i`d say that roughly you will double the performance.

The Pentium D was never a great CPU.


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Lucidity
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Registered: Jan 2008
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New version 8.5 of Fl is in beta, I believe it has multithread supported. Not 100% sure though.


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DJ Robby Rox
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Tiestoland

Well the multicore already works in 8 for vsts and honestly thats all I care about.
I never understood how people whored out on fxs alone, and even when I have a lot going on in my sends/mixer its still only like having one z3ta open.

I really hope its as powerful as you say subtle, I start with the lowest latency I can in the begining and adjust it as the I use up the cpu.
If I get 20 total I'll be happy as a pig in shit. Then maybe I can finally finish the countless decent tracks I was forced to stop over the years! Thanks guys, and if anyone else has comments please let me know, especially if you have a comparable cpu.


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Lucidity
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http://www.image-line.com/documents...5-public-beta-3!&entry_id=1237563404

I just looked here, and they also added multithread to effects, so you should be set man. I been using dual core 2.0 ghz for a while now, and I don't run out of cpu, depends though how many tracks too I guess. I would say that you should be pretty safe.


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DJ Robby Rox
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Tiestoland

quote:
Originally posted by Lucidity
http://www.image-line.com/documents...5-public-beta-3!&entry_id=1237563404

I just looked here, and they also added multithread to effects, so you should be set man. I been using dual core 2.0 ghz for a while now, and I don't run out of cpu, depends though how many tracks too I guess. I would say that you should be pretty safe.


Ok I must have misunderstood something, I knew people were complaining for a LONG TIME about that but I thought you were talking about the support for vsts.
I emailed FL Studio about this like a year ago and they seemed to have no intentions of changing it at all (which is why I'm a bit confused atm).

But thanks because this is huge, I don't really login to the FL forums anymore so I'm always behind on the new releases + I was NOT expecting them to do this at all. I'm so excited going to check it out now!

Thanks!


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Nightshift
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Location: Sacramento, California

you can bounce to audio your set-in-stone instrument tracks or patterns so that you can rid of generators (vsti). Audio playback is much more generous on the CPU than realtime synthesis.

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Zak McKracken
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i doubt u need to overclock man. i have a 2,4Ghz and i never had issues with CPU overload since i got that. Its a Quad but Reason only uses one core anyway.

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cronodevir
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Dude, Honestly, why the fuck arn't you using 2048 samples? Are you play live? I don't know, but if not, your latency should be as high as humanly possible. Anything less is....just less.


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quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
Dude, Honestly, why the fuck arn't you using 2048 samples? Are you play live? I don't know, but if not, your latency should be as high as humanly possible. Anything less is....just less.

You're joking, right?


Anyway: Even on a true multithreaded sequencer like Cubase, dual cores aren't going to double your throughput, it's more like a 70-80% boost for heavily parallel applications. Making it a quad-core only gives you another 60-70% boost on top of that. It's kind of hard to explain why, just take my word for it.

FL isn't truly multithreaded so you won't get that at all. My guess is you'd get maybe a 20-30% boost from the second core if you run a lot of effects. Although the Pentium D totally blows, so you'll probably get a fair bit of improvement just from switching to the Core.


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cronodevir
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No

I use 2048 samples in ASIO. And I never get clicks or pops. Do you have some reason NOT to set your sound card to a high latency?

Its only 47 ms that is a reasonable time to wait to hear sound when I push "play". Its not even a whole second's wait :P


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Subtle
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quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
No

I use 2048 samples in ASIO. And I never get clicks or pops. Do you have some reason NOT to set your sound card to a high latency?

Its only 47 ms that is a reasonable time to wait to hear sound when I push "play". Its not even a whole second's wait :P
LOL

Here we go again.


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