Expecting to see a variety of answers since we're all at different levels of "production"

For myself, nothing makes me more happy than getting new hardware. In particular monitors and headphones. I've yet to finish a track that I am proud of, but I imagine one day I might find that as one of the most gratifying things in this business/hobby. For now, it's hardware.

Things that get my blood boiling...
1. Ghost Writers (or ghost engineers as the offending artist loves to call them.) And to be clear, I have no problem with artists paying an engineer for things not related to composition. But when I read an Oakenfold biography, and it says he hummed the melody to Andy Gray for the Big Brother track and nothing more I get a little irritated. Combine that with the fact that BT claims the offender couldn't compose if the world depended on it and
2. Artists asking for outrageous/impossible advances for remix work instead of saying their not interested. I'm not going to name names (it would take all day) but an artist recently quoted me 2,500 euros to do a remix and I found an artist with at least twice his skill who wanted to do it for free because they enjoyed the track and understood that offers to remix tracks from legendary trance producers doesn't come often.

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One thing that pisses me the fuck off is when people who are ignorant make condescending remarks towards EDM production for stupid shit.

For example:
"So computers make your music?" (Yes, I just describe the song to the computer)

"Mixing and mastering? I mostly listen to rock so I wouldn't know anything about that" (how the fuck)

"Dude making techno is so easy, just load up reason and I can make a song in two minutes" (Right....)

"Oh you mean that stuff that goes OONTZ OONTZ OONTZ haha god i'm such a fag"


Stuff that makes me happy?

1) When people take the time to listen to my work and give me tips/complements.

2) When i'm trying to learn a new technique and all of a sudden everything clicks.

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Originally posted by Stephen Wiley Things that get my blood boiling... 1. Ghost Writers (or ghost engineers as the offending artist loves to call them.) And to be clear, I have no problem with artists paying an engineer for things not related to composition. But when I read an Oakenfold biography, and it says he hummed the melody to Andy Gray for the Big Brother track and nothing more I get a little irritated. Combine that with the fact that BT claims the offender couldn't compose if the world depended on it and

Where did you read that ?

It seems unlikely that a guy actually doing MOVIE SCORES would not be able to compose.

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I'm a very unorganized person, and when I see that I have to bounce things out, I get very annoyed.

What I like, so far as industry (used as liberally as possible) is concerned, is watching and even discovering artists who are becoming successful - especially when they seem to have found "their" sound.

What I dislike is when the hacks seem to be getting noticed by mainstream publications like the New Yorker and the Rolling Stone. My girlfriend went to a couple of websites referred to in either publication and, being honest, these guys sucked massive donkey balls. I, along with many others, put massive effort into this and when these idiots get noticed for coming up with a catchy loop that's barely passable, musically, I find it somewhat irksome.

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Originally posted by Stephen Wiley Expecting to see a variety of answers since we're all at different levels of "production" For myself, nothing makes me more happy than getting new hardware. In particular monitors and headphones. I've yet to finish a track that I am proud of, but I imagine one day I might find that as one of the most gratifying things in this business/hobby. For now, it's hardware. Things that get my blood boiling... 1. Ghost Writers (or ghost engineers as the offending artist loves to call them.) And to be clear, I have no problem with artists paying an engineer for things not related to composition. But when I read an Oakenfold biography, and it says he hummed the melody to Andy Gray for the Big Brother track and nothing more I get a little irritated. Combine that with the fact that BT claims the offender couldn't compose if the world depended on it and 2. Artists asking for outrageous/impossible advances for remix work instead of saying their not interested. I'm not going to name names (it would take all day) but an artist recently quoted me 2,500 euros to do a remix and I found an artist with at least twice his skill who wanted to do it for free because they enjoyed the track and understood that offers to remix tracks from legendary trance producers doesn't come often.

1) Why do you hate Ghost Writers of all people?

I think you meant, "producers" who use Ghost Producers (the people who actually make the music.)

2)You get what you pay for.

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It seems that in this kind of thread the negative paragraphs are always longer than the positive ones. All of the above posts bear out this generalization.



It's weird, I think humans get more pleasure out of ranting against something than they do out of praising something they like.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles It seems that in this kind of thread the negative paragraphs are always longer than the positive ones. All of the above posts bear out this generalization. It's weird, I think humans get more pleasure out of ranting against something than they do out of praising something they like.

Humans enjoy dwelling on negativity, inflicting pain and receiving pain in return. Humans I find also have a hard time listening to happy or uplifting music for too long before getting tired of it, but they can last much longer listening to dark or moody music. That is what i've noticed, I wonder if there is a study about this.

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Originally posted by Kismet7 Humans enjoy dwelling on negativity, inflicting pain and receiving pain in return. Humans I find also have a hard time listening to happy or uplifting music for too long before getting tired of it, but they can last much longer listening to dark or moody music. That is what i've noticed, I wonder if there is a study about this.

thought provoking

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles It seems that in this kind of thread the negative paragraphs are always longer than the positive ones. All of the above posts bear out this generalization. It's weird, I think humans get more pleasure out of ranting against something than they do out of praising something they like.

I've read in a number of places where human beings have a tendency to regard adverse experiences about five times more harshly than any positive emotions derived from a pleasant experience. I definitely see the correlation you're referring to.

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Originally posted by Kismet7 Humans enjoy dwelling on negativity, inflicting pain and receiving pain in return. Humans I find also have a hard time listening to happy or uplifting music for too long before getting tired of it, but they can last much longer listening to dark or moody music. That is what i've noticed, I wonder if there is a study about this.

I think you're projecting your own sado-masochism. I don't really enjoy pain, nor do I enjoy dolling it out. When I'm feeling attacked, I tend to react with some hostility in self-defense. But when I'm done with an issue, I'm done with it, and move on.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker I've read in a number of places where human beings have a tendency to regard adverse experiences about five times more harshly than any positive emotions derived from a pleasant experience. I definitely see the correlation you're referring to. I think you're projecting your own sado-masochism. I don't really enjoy pain, nor do I enjoy dolling it out. When I'm feeling attacked, I tend to react with some hostility in self-defense. But when I'm done with an issue, I'm done with it, and move on.

I'm projecting the reality of forums, and perhaps a reality of all humans.
I filed you under sado-masochist after the last thread. I think humans in general are sado-masochistic, it is just more apparent on forums where humans seem to inflict and receive pain with less inhibition. And perhaps it is done subconciously, for example you think you are not a masochist (teh denial), but I would disagree. I think anyone who engages in a lengthy debate or disucssion about a topic on a forum, that involves some sort of non intellectual rhetoric (attacks), could be considered S&M.

For example, the good folks in the Review Forum, they employ sadist behaviour quite often, same with the MD and Chill Out forums. I wonder if there are humans who aren't S&M, and what their attributes are.

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Originally posted by Kismet7 I think im projecting a reality of forums. I filed you under sado-masochist after the last thread. I think humans in general are sado-masochistic, it is just more apparent on forums where humans seem to inflict and receive pain with less inhibition. And perhaps it is done subconciously, for example you think you are not a masochist, but I would disagree. I think anyone who engages in a lengthy debate on a forum, that involves some sort of non intellectual rhetoric (attacks), could be considered S&M. For example, the people in the Review Forum, they employ sadist behaviour quite often, same with the MD and Chill Out forums. Maybe not all humans are S&M, maybe just the passionate are.

I have a specific type of target who, if I am to show my sadistic dint, has generally earned it by being completely obnoxious and/or offensive - and even sadistic, themselves. I don't think your anecdotal example of me in a debate with anyone is very accurate, so far as masochism. I find it difficult to discern where I might have been on the receiving end of any actual sadism, for starters (and, trust me, I have known a few true sadists - on and off the internet).