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Confirmed: "torture" saved L.A. from 9/11 style attack
For all the bleeding hearts out there who don't realize the world is a dangerous place:
| quote: | CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style Attack on Los Angeles
Before he was waterboarded, when KSM was asked about planned attacks on the United States, he ominously told his CIA interrogators, “Soon, you will know.”
According to the previously classified May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that was released by President Barack Obama last week, the thwarted attack -- which KSM called the “Second Wave”-- planned “ ‘to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into’ a building in Los Angeles.”
After KSM was captured by the United States, he was not initially cooperative with CIA interrogators. Nor was another top al Qaeda leader named Zubaydah. KSM, Zubaydah, and a third terrorist named Nashiri were the only three persons ever subjected to waterboarding by the CIA.
Before they were subjected to “enhanced techniques” of interrogation that included waterboarding, KSM and Zubaydah were not only uncooperative but also appeared contemptuous of the will of the American people to defend themselves.
After he was subjected to the “waterboard” technique, KSM became cooperative, providing intelligence that led to the capture of key al Qaeda allies and, eventually, the closing down of an East Asian terrorist cell that had been tasked with carrying out the 9/11-style attack on Los Angeles.
“You have informed us that information obtained from KSM also led to the capture of Riduan bin Isomuddin, better known as Hambali, and the discover of the Guraba Cell, a 17-member Jemaah Islamiyah cell tasked with executing the ‘Second Wave,’” reads the memo. “More specifically, we understand that KSM admitted that he had [redaction] large sum of money to an al Qaeda associate [redaction] … Khan subsequently identified the associate (Zubair), who was then captured. Zubair, in turn, provided information that led to the arrest of Hambali. The information acquired from these captures allowed CIA interrogators to pose more specific questions to KSM, which led the CIA to Hambali’s brother, al Hadi. Using information obtained from multiple sources, al-Hadi was captured, and he subsequently identified the Garuba cell. With the aid of this additional information, interrogations of Hambali confirmed much of what was learned from KSM.”
A CIA spokesman confirmed to CNSNews.com today that the CIA stands by the factual assertions made here. |
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/conte...px?RsrcID=46949
So why didn't Obama release this info too? Simple.... because he knows that if the public could see the details of the techniques side by side with evidence that the program saved American lives, the vast majority would support continuing it.
This flies in the face of such talking points by Krypton et al that torture never works, and people will simply say anything to get it to stop. But hell, KSM never should have had that happen to him even though Los Angeles was spared, right?
I, for one, am glad Cheney has called for the specific CIA reports showing evidence of thwarted attacks by their approved interrogation techniques to also be released. People who think torture will recruit scores of new terrorists against America should be more worried that the release of the CIA memos will do worse... not only will you have clandestine operations officers in the field being more hesitant to apply techniques out of fear of getting prosecuted, but the anti-American crazies now know the extent of what we'd be willing to do to obtain information and can readily prepare for training against it (even if we aren't allowed to do it anymore). 4 different CIA directors urged Obama not to release the memos, but we should listen to a community organizer over those who have spent their lives in the world of intelligence and counter-intelligence? lol. But he's gotta hold the moral high ground on everything I guess.
Waterboarding, sleep deprivation, etc. are an insult to the word "torture" anyway, if any of you read what kind of fucked up things other countries do to their captives.
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