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SmellsExcellent
fuckedupandconfused



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Shangri-La
To The Mod Who Removed My Sig!

When we started the thing I talked to swamper and he said as long as it said that is was not associated with trancEaddict or himself it would be ok... Also, trancEaddict AG group, trancEaddict eDonkey, what is so wrong with trancEaddict DC community.. Its not like trancEaddict isn't something only we could have come up with; anyone could want to have a trancEaddict hub for people who are addicted to trance.

Just give me a better reason than that because it's not associated with TA.com anyways since swamper never really endorsed it, its only a conincidence that the names are the same.

-m


[edit] and move this to the chillout room too please.. [/edit]


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Virus
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Stockholm

quote:
Originally posted by davinox
i found a betta sig....


Alltho I really like Paul van Dyk I have to say that sig is really funny.. "Reworking greatness" heh.

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Dave_Masters
A.K.A ...for you



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Bournemouth, UK



That sig really is fucking funny, however im not sure fox will see the funy side, and remember he does have power to remove them.

As for the hub. I Really understand the concerns of tranceaddict being associated with the hub. Just Rename the Sigs To "Trance Direct Connect Hub" like i have done.....

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Jah
i just want to wear a hat



Registered: Nov 2000
Location: Australia, Perth

to the fagat who removed my sig (tta) you could have fucking asked i could have saved all the text before you ruthlessly destroyed it you fucking twerp.



hehe j/k sorry i had to vent. you know i love you tta


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Tranz
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Registered: Mar 2001
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That's the funniest sig I've sever seen.
How can I get one???


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dig2k
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: UK

at least u got told y

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DJ Sarah H
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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: London UK Baby


*Thread moved to chill out*

With the advent of AG being effectivly closed by the RIAA and the fact that MP3 sharing is still frowned upon by most of the major labels, commercial or otherwise, the fact that tranceaddict.com is the 3rd most popular trance music site (according to google.com) and also due to the fact that tranceaddict.com is well known to DJ's, producers and record labels, it stands to reason that tranceaddict.com has and is under scrutiny by various authorites that wish to see MP3 file sharing totally abolished for copyrighted work.
Therefore tranceaddict.com needs to distant itself from such activitie's.
It does not matter that tranceaddict.com is not based in the USA, Canada too has it's own version of the RIAA as does England, Europe and most major developed countries.
Until an established AG alternative comes along, the authorities will be looking at all other sources of obtaining MP3 files from the internet and if tranceaddict.com is seen as a place where information to access such files and as a place to readily obtain mp3 files then it will also be a target.
tranceaddict.com is 1st and foremost a site for trance related issues, as in discussing the music, the quality of Dj's , production's , where the scene is going etc, NOT as a source for mp3.

As a MP3 downloader myself I do understand how everyone on these forums feel, I myself see the fact that trance MP3's have been so widely available is good for the scene, it's taken the genre to area's of this world that possibly would not have had trance music otherwise, even in the highly commercial realm of the USA, trance music is not widely available to buy, so the use of MP3 in those area's can only be good for the scene as it brings trance to a wider audience and some of those ppl exposed will explore ways to BUY trance either thru importation or by buying online, so therefore generating new sales.
It is a fact that record sales have gone UP since the advent of places like Napster but the commercial record labels fail to see that, all they see is each downloaded track of an artist say like Britney Spears is another few cents that has not gone into their pocket.
What they fail to see is yes maybe some person has Dled 2 britney tracks but that has prompted them to buy the album on cd.
It's all swings and roundabouts with the MP3 scene, some producers like Armin do realise the benefit of MP3 but in the overall aspect of things, Armin is not a big name in the world of music and therefore has little say in the commercial realms of popular music.

In essence what i am trying to put across to u all is that Yes AG is dead, but their is no need to lose your heads and start posting all over ta forums about this or that hub or places to obtain mp3, an AG alternative will surface soon enough and then the hubs will be mainly forgotten about.
Until there is that AG alternative, don't give the authorites another legitimate target in tranceaddict.com, just for maybe a couple of weeks of mp3 files being scarce, do u really want to risk losing a site like tranceaddict.com and get Swamper into all sorts of shit ?
Why should He have to pay for U to obtain a few mp3's ?
I suggest that u all think about the long term effects of your short term solutions just cos u want a few mp3's.

as a footnote, We have the DJ forum's here for up and coming producer's artist's to showcase their work and there it is legal for them to post their mp3 as long as it's their own work.
Try downloading some of those guys work, most of it is really good and its Legal


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SmellsExcellent
fuckedupandconfused



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Shangri-La

Neo: I understand where you are comming from and that TA does not want to go under because of our Hub, but I do not see it as a short term solution. I see it as the solution. So far the Hubhas grown enoprmously, all the same type of music is available and everyone seems completely positive and exited about the potential the hub has.

On one hand there is the fact that the hub is not associated with TA.com and all that bit I put in my first post which, legally, is sound. On the other, I understand that we just dont want to have that shit going on here because then something could happen for the worse.

Anyways, thanks for an explanation. Thats all I really wanted.

cheers,
Marc


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TeKnoHe@d2025
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

I really don't see the RIAA targeting an electronic dance music site though. Most artists in this genre are perfectly fine with the idea of the MP3. The only label I can think of that has a problem with MP3s (singles not livesets) is Blackhole.


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DJ Sarah H
Louboutin's Bitch



Registered: Nov 2000
Location: London UK Baby

quote:
Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
I really don't see the RIAA targeting an electronic dance music site though. Most artists in this genre are perfectly fine with the idea of the MP3. The only label I can think of that has a problem with MP3s (singles not livesets) is Blackhole.



Unfortunately, the RIAA and similiar bodies are looking at all types of sites that offer mp3, they employ ppl to sit at a PC all day and surf the web looking for mp3 sites, they have a set list of priorites, hence why TA.com has never had albums for DL, as this is high on the RIAA hit list.

I agree with u that most artists in this genre appear to be MP3 friendly but their labels are not.
In the case of most trance labels, they are owned by larger labels, example Nebula are owned by Virgin and virgin are one of those labels protected by the RIAA.
Sony own many minor labels and are also covered by the RIAA.
And as such, being a part of a corporation owned by companies protected by the RIAA, the ruling applies to those minor labels too.

Many of the Trance artist's / producer's on those labels have NO say in what polocies the labels use / uphold and therefore those trance artist's are not to blame in this case on the whole.


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torontotrance
I hath returned



Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto

Sighs..

Your signature was disabled.....BECAUSE it was TOO BIG!. You were given at least a week's notice to change it. Your fault, not mine.

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Blue.
Enjoy the silence



Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Mississauga

quote:
Originally posted by Wicked Neo

tranceaddict.com is 1st and foremost a site for trance related issues, as in discussing the music, the quality of Dj's , production's , where the scene is going etc, NOT as a source for mp3.



That's why they are downloadable from the main site?


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