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Jim Carson
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MySpace cyber-bulling conviction tentatively dismissed

MySpace cyber-bulling conviction tentatively dismissed

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/l...0,6795027.story




Nick Ut / Associated Press

Lori Drew helped create a fake MySpace profile to draw in an acquaintance of her daughter’s.
A federal judge tentatively throws out guilty verdicts in a hoax that led to a teen girl's suicide.

By Alexandra Zavis

July 3, 2009

A federal judge in Los Angeles on Thursday tentatively threw out the conviction of a Missouri woman for her role in a cruel Internet hoax on a teenage girl who ended up committing suicide.

The decision by U.S. District Judge George H. Wu, which will not become final until he files a written ruling, was a blow to prosecutors who had hoped to send the message that cyber-bullying is a crime. Wu had repeatedly delayed sentencing to consider a defense motion to dismiss the entire case.

U.S. Atty. Thomas P. O'Brien, whose office prosecuted the woman, said after the decision was announced that the law needed to be strengthened.

"We call it cyber-bullying and we don't have a law to address it," he said at a news conference.

O'Brien, who was personally involved in the case, has earned a reputation for aggressive prosecutions in the nearly two years he has headed the Central District of California.

His decision to prosecute Lori Drew, 50, surprised many because the suicide and MySpace hoax that led up to it took place in Missouri, where local and federal prosecutors had decided they could find no applicable statute.

O'Brien said his office determined that the case could be prosecuted in Los Angeles because MySpace is based in Beverly Hills.

Prosecutors here invoked a criminal statute more commonly used to prosecute hackers or defendants who have improperly accessed computers for financial gain, to charge Drew for her part in setting up a MySpace account in the name of a fictitious 16-year-old boy.

Prosecutors said Drew, her 13-year-old daughter, Sarah, and an 18-year old employee used the fake profile to lure Megan Meier into an online relationship, initially to find out whether Megan had been spreading rumors about Sarah.

Megan, 13, hanged herself with a belt in October 2006 after getting a message, purportedly from the boy, telling her that "the world would be a better place without you."

A federal jury convicted Drew in November of three misdemeanor computer crimes but deadlocked on a felony conspiracy charge that would have carried a sentence of up to 20 years in prison.

Wu took the unusual step of delaying sentencing to consider the defense's contention that the case should be dismissed because prosecutors failed to prove that Drew, whose family lived four doors away from the Meiers in the St. Louis suburb of Dardenne Prairie, had intentionally violated MySpace rules when creating the bogus profile.

At a May hearing, Wu grilled Assistant U.S. Atty. Mark Krause at length about whether the government had prosecuted Drew under the appropriate laws when they asserted that violating MySpace's terms of service amounted to a crime.

On Thursday, he again expressed concern that if Drew's conviction stood, anyone who violated the site's terms of use could also be convicted of a crime.

"The implication was that anyone on the Internet would be a criminal if they filled out a website registration using a fake name or using the wrong age," said Matt Zimmerman, a lawyer at the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

"And I think that was a path the judge was not terribly interested in going down."

Legal experts have been grappling with cyber-bullying for years.

Although the anonymity available on the Internet creates opportunities for abuse, attempts to restrict cyber-bullying raise thorny issues about free speech.

"Ultimately I think Congress has to deal with this issue," said former Assistant U.S. Atty. Laurie Levenson, now a professor at Loyola Law School.

"The challenge is to draft legislation that . . . isn't so broad that it chills people's 1st Amendment rights and is enforceable."

Drew's lawyer, H. Dean Steward, said outside court that his client was relieved by the tentative outcome but "like the rest of us, continues to be saddened by the death of a teenage girl."

Steward, who has called the prosecution a misguided effort to seek vengeance, said Thursday that charges should not have been filed in Los Angeles in a case that was rejected by prosecutors in Missouri.

"The cynic in me says that Tom O'Brien wanted to make a name for himself or to keep his job," Steward said.

O'Brien acknowledged that prosecuting Drew under the federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act was a risk, but he said, "I am proud to be involved in a case that sought justice for a 13-year-old little girl."

O'Brien said prosecutors would consider their options, including a possible appeal, when they receive Wu's written judgment, which could be filed as soon as next week. Megan's parents, Ron and Tina Meier, were in court Thursday and briefly addressed the news conference.

Although they expressed disappointment at the judge's tentative reversal of Drew's conviction, they said the case had served a purpose by drawing attention to the danger of cyber-bullying.

Fighting back tears, Ron Meier said: "A jury of her peers did convict her, and that is a victory in itself."



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They shouldn't let off the leach completely what the dumb broad did was COMPLETELY fucked up.

What more evidence to punish the lady do you need then this:

quote:
Megan, 13, hanged herself with a belt in October 2006 after getting a message, purportedly from the boy, telling her that "the world would be a better place without you."


Someone doesn't have a daughter anymore because of the dumb BS the mom was trying to do to that girl. If I were the girls parents i would be pretty mad right about now.....

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i hope she finds a lump


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quote:
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i hope she finds a lump


oh wow, that is harsh, but, that woman is quite the monster


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I left a message for Judge Wu's office to tell him what he did was despicable and I also contacted Atty general Thomas P. O'Brien to tell him I think he should appeal and make sure he did a better job at winning this conviction. There really is no excuse for this.


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quote:
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I left a message for Judge Wu's office to tell him what he did was accomplice to murder and I also contacted Atty general Thomas P. O'Brien to tell him I think he should appeal and make sure he did a better job at winning this conviction. There really is no excuse for this.


can you post the numbers for this, i'd like to call as well. this monster should be in jail.

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can you post the numbers for this, i'd like to call as well. this monster should be in jail.


Judge Wu's office can be reached @ 213-894-0191.

http://www.cacd.uscourts.gov/CACD/J...0f?OpenDocument

Be sure to leave a message if they don't answer.

You can email: [email protected] to send a message to Us Atty Thomas P. O'Brien.


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MySpace Victim's Mom Seeks Justice

http://www.momlogic.com/2009/07/myspace_suicide_victims_mom_se.php

Good for her!

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What she did was terrible , and I hope she pays in some way.



......but FFS, come on people, just switch the computer off if someone is "cyber bullying". No one forces you to live your life based on myspace postings and if you stop looking at it, it all goes away.

The ultimate problem with this case is that it would set a precident for internet regulation or at least a legal judgement on the setting up ofonline profiles. No judge wants to be the one to touch that.

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I know for certain that the world would be better off without each and every one of you jerks. And guess what? S. Nate Faulkner is my real name, or IS it? Also guess what? I bet none of you are gonna kill yourself cause i said that, though you all should. And even if you did, there is no way in hell i would have broken any law.

Yes, that lady is a snooping, petty bitch, but guess what? Thousands of people have fought and died for her right to be so. If anyone should be to blame for that girl's suicide, it would be her parents for not teaching her how to deal with jerks and life.

Finally, I repeat: The world would be a better place without any of you. Especially me. Which is why i refuse to die, so that i can taint the world for the rest of you. Thank you.


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I mean seriously, who here honestly believes the world WOULDN'T be a better place without that 72hour-homo-billy?


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