Haven't been touched on our soil since then, so you fucking know its working!

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Q5echo [img]http://www.waarheid911.nl/wtc2collapse.jpg[img]

Breaking the law is justified right? We can still prevent terrorism without sacrificing our constitutional values.

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Originally posted by Krypton Breaking the law is justified right?

you're going to have to be more specific.

Why should we care anyway, none of us go to mosques right?

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Clovis Why should we care anyway, none of us go to mosques right?

i only go for the free felafel on tuesdays and thursdays.

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Originally posted by Q5echo you're going to have to be more specific.

Q, perhaps I should throw out a picture of dead Iraqis all bloodied up. We can just throw emotionally charged pictures at each other!

You want specifics? Domestic warrant less wiretapping of American citizens communications. Just a start. But I honestly don't have much hope for where this is going to go. I know you believe wholeheartedly in the national security state, at the behest of our constitutional rights. Again, we can have reasonable security without sacrificing our freedoms.

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Originally posted by Krypton You want specifics?

yes. is that too much to ask? i'm sorry, weaksauce, but after accusing someone of breaking the law it becomes incumbant upon you, weaksauce, to provide proof - some detail - something.

...but i'm not even asking that. all i'm asking is what specifically was the law you're accusing someone of breaking?

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Domestic warrant less wiretapping of American citizens communications. Just a start.

that was an act of Congress. you must stop failing at this grasshopper.

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But I honestly don't have much hope for where this is going to go.

you are substituting "hope" with knowledge. please stop doing that. thats how we ended up with a Community Organizer-in-Chief...who btw has endorsed, continued, and enhanced everything you hate Bush for.

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Again, we can have reasonable security without sacrificing our freedoms.

define reasonable? and what freedoms have we laid at the alter un-reasonable security?

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Originally posted by Q5echo yes. is that too much to ask? i'm sorry, weaksauce, but after accusing someone of breaking the law it becomes incumbant upon you, weaksauce, to provide proof - some detail - something. ...but i'm not even asking that. all i'm asking is what specifically was the law you're accusing someone of breaking?

Torture statutes, international law, and search and seizure amendment.

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that was an act of Congress. you must stop failing at this grasshopper.

A Republican dominated Congress in lock step with anything and everything the president wanted, awesome...fuck off with the arrogant comments.

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you are substituting "hope" with knowledge. please stop doing that. thats how we ended up with a Community Organizer-in-Chief...who btw has endorsed, continued, and enhanced everything you hate Bush for.

Bullshit. You want me to believe we still water board, and send detainees to third countries to be tortured? LOL...

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define reasonable? and what freedoms have we laid at the alter un-reasonable security?

Police just can't arrest anyone off the street just on a hunch they committed a crime. We have law and order, but, we have rights protecting us from a tyrannical state. What you want is a national security state that can do anything it wants in the name of fighting terrorism. No wonder you post an emotionally charged picture as if it means anything.

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Originally posted by Krypton Bullshit. You want me to believe we still water board, and send detainees to third countries to be tortured? LOL...

You're pretty stupid if you think otherwise.

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Originally posted by Lews You're pretty stupid if you think otherwise.

fuck off...

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